Damnit, I thought the Flyers were making a push for Bouwmeester via trade or something? I know Eklund's posts aren't always accurate, but kind of disheartening to read.


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It's a bit hard to believe that the Rangers would be contenders, since they already dropped tons of money on Redden and Rozival and are pretty well shored up on D. They'd be in the market for some scoring.

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With Eklund's track record, they probably have a better chance of getting Bouwmeester now since they are not on Eklund's list.

Nice call, Eklund said the Flyers were the front runners in the Brian Campbell sweepstakes, Honestly i don't think Homer even called his agent.

That is true...

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I'm sure the Flyers would at least inquire about Bouwmeester if he is on the block. I wouldn't put any stock into anything Eklund says at this point.

dont bank on this, i'd be willing to bet homer has been seriously trying to bring in bouwmeester. never take something eklund says is true

Eklund's "rumor's" are worth about the same stuff we all flush down the toilet.

That being said I don't think The Flyers are pursuing him. Homer opted not to go for any big names.

I know I'm a sheep walking into the middle of a pack of wolves, but I'd rather sign a defenseman that can play defense.

Homer didn't go for any big names yet.. but that doesn't mean he still isn't going to trade for Bouwmeester. I for one don't feel like we will trade for Bouwmeester, but I sure hope we do. I want to see one more big splash before the season starts.

I'd have to say, don't hold your breath on that "last big splash" before FA ends....it should be obvious that Homer isn't really interested in making marquee moves....not to mention, the last I checked, we're still a mil and change OVER the cap, and I don't see us being able to get under the cap AND sign a name like Bouwmeester at the same time....sorry, but I really don't see it happening....

You're only going to see so many transactions by a team in the sam eoff season. Resigning Carter and Jones to big raises, trading for Eminger, signing Vaananen, Asham, Metropolit...

They've been busy enough. It's really slim they're going to do much more. Whether you agree with it or not is another issue.

Which is kind of funny considering you love the acquisitions of a project player one team gave up on and a guy who wasn't even in the league last year.

Boutmeester = can't play defense, but the other two? No sweat. They're in the bag.

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Ah, thanks.

As Nina said, I'm sure we're on the radar, but so are probably half a dozen or more teams. Bouwmeester is going to be a huge D-man for years to come. I would love him here, but cannot see it happening because of our cap.

i dont think we have the money to afford him unless hes willing to play for less

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The main, and obviously apparent, difference is that we could sign at least 2 of each of Eminger and Vaananen for the price of Bouwmeester. And I never said that Eminger and Vaananen are or will be great defenseman, but we didn't throw away 2 or 3 quality forwards or prospects to get them. But you can feel free to take people's statements to the extreme if it fits your argument better.

The main point is, if we're going to continue to have just an above average goalie, our marquee defensive signings better be good at defense.

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Actually he doesn't play just an offensive game he plays more of a two way game. So he's like a complete package. And if Timonen in the lineup he can teach and mentor J-Bo.

With Lupul given an extension, I would imagine that diminishes the chances of trading for J.Bo. I guess I kind of figured he'd be a big part of that trade, if the Flyers thought they couldn't/wouldn't re-sign him (partially because trading him would free up some salary.) What do you think?

I think Upshall or Carter would be part of the trade.

Carter would make sense because of his salary but would hurt the team more. What about a prospect package like Downie, Parent, and maybe Kempe or Jones, Downie and Parent?

You would never see Carter in a trade, it would be Lupul before Carter, I Can see Upshall or Knuble apart of a package with jones or parent and a 1st rounder.

I don't think it diminishes the chances at all. They could still deal Lupul although that seems less likely. The Flyers also have other valuable assets to deal if they want JayBo.

Oh yeah, Carter's not going anywhere. Just in terms of money, it makes sense to shed his salary. I am slightly hesitant to part ways with draft picks right now because Homer seems to deal them away a bit too freely, but I would be perfectly fine with Upshall, Jones/Parent, + another prospect.

Why is Carter not going anywhere? Anything can happen.

I know what you're saying, but I've seen him enough to know that he coughs up the puck pretty easily and isn't great at taking on a player one-on-one. He is a great offensive threat, and I know player's can improve certain aspects of their game, but I wouldn't want to cough up a lot of money (or personnel) for a guy with the hope that he improves his defensive game. But I'm not a GM.

I would trade Hartnell and next years first pick along with a #5 or 6 D man for Bouwmeester He is really good, stuck on a garbage team. Look what Luongo did when he left Florida. Bouwmeester's potential hasn't even peaked yet. Plus I think Hartnell makes to much money. He never proved anything to get 5+ Million a year. Would love to see what happens with Bouwmeester...

Carter has just signed a new contract, I wouldn't of thought they would trade him now. But yeah, anything could happen.

Wouldn't Florida want a D-man in to replace Jay if he did leave?

Yea, I remember a few years ago Hossa signed a long contract with the Sens then later on in the offseason they decided to trade him to Atlanta. Anything can happen.

I'm pretty sure. Maybe Kukkonen or Parent?

They have 10 signed D-man, so I don't think so unless it's a prospect or someone like Coburn.

They need a first line center (Carter, Briere)

I can remember that, too. Didn't he sign a new contract and leave in the same day because the GM was tired of Hossa's salary demands?

With Heatley wanting to move away from Atlanta, I guess they wanted him more. For me anyway, Heatley > Hossa any day.



I don't know, the Panthers have more offense than D, losing Jay, who would they replace him with?

IMO they don't have anything at all

Very true. Should not have let go of Jokinen. Big mistake.

I think they pretty much had to. They got way to little for him though

Ideally they would want someone to replace him, but I think most teams dealing with them aren't going to give up a top 4 dman since it would be somewhat of a lateral move when most teams are looking to upgrade on what they have currently.

They also desperately need offense so my guess is the centerpiece they get back will be a forward. I think they chances of them screwing this trade up increases the longer they wait to deal him.

Yeah, but where would that leave them on D?

Sometimes a lateral move can work out just fine, given that the defenceman they potentially could bring in would be just as, or better than Jay. Otherwise the Panthers would be screwed.

I mean it would be a lateral move for the team acquiring Jay. Say the Flyers were interested in him. I am sure ideally Florida would like Coburn in return, but Coburn would never be on the table because we need to add onto Coburn + Timo not swap one our of top dmen for another. Otherwise we'd essentially be in the same position we are today. I am not sure many teams are willing to give up a top defenseman for JayBo for that reason. All of the teams looking for defense need to add on to what they have.

I think they are pretty much screwed either way because it's never a good position to be in when your top player wants out. I also think Martin is going to screw up by waiting until the deadline to deal him.

That's what I mean, but by holding on like you say, it's just getting harder for the Panthers to get the right deal. If other teams are not willing to part with one of their D-men to acquire Jay, then a gut instinct trade is on the cards and only Florida will lose out.

Do you think many teams will give up their 1st round pick to get Jay? But then Florida needs the players I guess...

I don't think I'm making sense but I know what I mean