ericmedc
Jul 3 2008, 09:48 AM
Stupid NMC to Briere, why did that smallish little streaky bsterd who's really good at times get a NMC? Gah! He should be traded for Bowie!
OrangeAndBlack
Jul 3 2008, 10:24 AM
Because every summer there is a signing frenzy when players get ridiculous contracts. Fans demand their teams make big splashes in the free agent market (see this board for the past two days) and then spend the rest of the time complaining that we overpaid and are handicapped by the salary cap.
Twenty_Five
Jul 3 2008, 10:25 AM
Seriously who would pay that prancing dancing boy Brian Cambell more money than Niklas Lidstrom?
ericmedc
Jul 3 2008, 10:33 AM
QUOTE (OrangeAndBlack @ Jul 3 2008, 05:24 PM)

Because every summer there is a signing frenzy when players get ridiculous contracts. Fans demand their teams make big splashes in the free agent market (see this board for the past two days) and then spend the rest of the time complaining that we overpaid and are handicapped by the salary cap.
I know that, I just felt like ranting and as everyone else is doing the same over other contracts I felt the need of this thread. (For the information, I never support NMC's under any circumstances (unless it's bowie))
StopPucksWithMyFace
Jul 3 2008, 10:38 AM
I think its ridiculous to bash the contracts we're currently under, the demands of impact players were filled last off season, and the money looks good compared to what was dished out since Tuesday. Armchair Gm's bishing and moaning makes no difference, I wish Briere didn't have his contract, but than again, if he wasn't here last year, no ECF so you take it in stride. Are we a better team without briere? Thats like saying the Eagles we're better without TO. The answer is no.
LeafsFanRyan52
Jul 3 2008, 10:42 AM
your complaining about NMC?
imagine being a Leafs fan..
Gagne12
Jul 3 2008, 10:47 AM
I think Huet makes more than Broduer.
FlyersFanTN
Jul 3 2008, 11:27 AM
at least we can all still look forward to carey price's glove side next year.
ericmedc
Jul 3 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE (LeafsFanRyan52 @ Jul 3 2008, 05:42 PM)

your complaining about NMC?
imagine being a Leafs fan..
That would make me depressed
FlyersGirl
Jul 3 2008, 11:39 AM
QUOTE (LeafsFanRyan52 @ Jul 3 2008, 11:42 AM)

your complaining about NMC?
imagine being a Leafs fan..
Hypothetically we could one day be in your situation since the there are about 5 players with NTC/NMCs on the team.
Twenty_Five
Jul 3 2008, 04:07 PM
Also, the Hurricanes gave Joni Pitkanen a three year 14mil salary.....Pits....has he even played a full season? Madness.....
QUOTE (ericmedc @ Jul 3 2008, 10:48 AM)

Stupid NMC to Briere, why did that smallish little streaky bsterd who's really good at times get a NMC? Gah! He should be traded for Bowie!
Agree 100 %.
antelope
Jul 3 2008, 04:53 PM
QUOTE (FlyersFanTN @ Jul 3 2008, 12:27 PM)

at least we can all still look forward to carey price's glove side next year.
Hello Kitty Mitten!!!
G.O.A.T.
Jul 3 2008, 04:59 PM
Brendan
Jul 3 2008, 10:00 PM
QUOTE (FlyersFanTN @ Jul 3 2008, 12:27 PM)

at least we can all still look forward to carey price's glove side next year.
For sure.
Brian
Jul 3 2008, 10:14 PM
QUOTE (Twenty_Five @ Jul 3 2008, 11:25 AM)

Seriously who would pay that prancing dancing boy Brian Cambell more money than Niklas Lidstrom?
Dude, I've been saying that to myself for the last 3 days.
Dave
Jul 4 2008, 02:41 AM
QUOTE (OrangeAndBlack @ Jul 3 2008, 04:24 PM)

Because every summer there is a signing frenzy when players get ridiculous contracts. Fans demand their teams make big splashes in the free agent market (see this board for the past two days) and then spend the rest of the time complaining that we overpaid and are handicapped by the salary cap.
+1. If we hadn't of made a big name move in last seasons agency, most people would moan. Don't think the backing staff could win really.
Flyersrule25
Jul 4 2008, 10:10 AM
I am shocked that Hossa only signed for 1 year in Detroit
QUOTE (Flyersrule25 @ Jul 4 2008, 11:10 AM)

I am shocked that Hossa only signed for 1 year in Detroit
I'm not. Plan is probably win the Cup next season and then sign a long term big $ contract to the highest bidder.
OrangeAndBlack
Jul 4 2008, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (pat @ Jul 4 2008, 11:14 AM)

I'm not. Plan is probably win the Cup next season and then sign a long term big $ contract to the highest bidder.
Imagine what he'll earn after he wins the Cup with detroit and the Conn Smythe,leading the league in playoff scoring.
Dave
Jul 4 2008, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (pat @ Jul 4 2008, 04:14 PM)

I'm not. Plan is probably win the Cup next season and then sign a long term big $ contract to the highest bidder.
Exactly. If he doesn't win it either, he'll be off somewhere else. Probably to another 2009 finalst.
FlyersFan27
Jul 5 2008, 02:47 PM
QUOTE (Gagne12 @ Jul 3 2008, 10:47 AM)

I think Huet makes more than Broduer.
No goalie does, Brodeur has deferred most of his money in the later years of his contract in order to free up cap room for the team now.
GutterTheGreat220
Jul 6 2008, 08:33 AM
QUOTE (FlyersFan27 @ Jul 5 2008, 03:47 PM)

No goalie does, Brodeur has deferred most of his money in the later years of his contract in order to free up cap room for the team now.
That's a real team player.
juggalo-flyer
Jul 6 2008, 02:53 PM
QUOTE (FlyersFan27 @ Jul 5 2008, 03:47 PM)

No goalie does, Brodeur has deferred most of his money in the later years of his contract in order to free up cap room for the team now.
what he gets paid each year means nothing to the cap hit it is the avg. of the total contract
frick
Jul 6 2008, 02:54 PM
QUOTE (Joe @ Jul 6 2008, 03:49 PM)

NMC = ???
No Movement Clause (Sometimes also referred to as NTC or No Trade Clause)
Player cannot be traded without waiving that first. So, he is in control of who he can play for/where he can be traded to.
juggalo-flyer
Jul 6 2008, 02:55 PM
QUOTE (Joe @ Jul 6 2008, 03:49 PM)

NMC = ???
no movement clause
sorry i don't know anything but..."trade him for bowie?" who the F is that?
and Briere helped make the Flyers PP one of the best in the league. This year with richards and kimmo on the points put briere , gagne, and knuble/hartnall and we can be a top 1 or 2 pp in league again
frick
Jul 6 2008, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (Joe @ Jul 6 2008, 05:05 PM)

sorry i don't know anything but..."trade him for bowie?" who the F is that?
That's okay.

Bowie = Jay Bouwmeester (Florida Panthers defenseman)
on that note i'd rather send hartnall and a 1st or 2nd rounder to Florida for Jay Bouwmeester ...and correct me if i am wrong but Bouwmeester is still a RFA right?
Losing Briere would kill our Power Play
The Rifle27
Jul 6 2008, 06:35 PM
x3
FlyersGirl
Jul 6 2008, 11:19 PM
QUOTE (Joe @ Jul 6 2008, 07:33 PM)

on that note i'd rather send hartnall and a 1st or 2nd rounder to Florida for Jay Bouwmeester ...and correct me if i am wrong but Bouwmeester is still a RFA right?
Losing Briere would kill our Power Play
Bouwmeester is an RFA this summer, but he is set to become a UFA next summer.
Brophy
Jul 8 2008, 01:40 PM
If the Homer somehow unloaded Hartnell's salary......wow.
LeafsFanRyan52
Jul 9 2008, 08:56 PM
QUOTE (FlyersGirl @ Jul 3 2008, 12:39 PM)

Hypothetically we could one day be in your situation since the there are about 5 players with NTC/NMCs on the team.
its horrible. they gave Hagman one, but its only for his first year so i cant complain
who has the N*C on the Flyers?
LeafsFanRyan52
Jul 9 2008, 08:58 PM
QUOTE (Joe @ Jul 6 2008, 03:49 PM)

NMC = ???
they cant be traded or sent to the minors without they waiving it
QUOTE (frick @ Jul 6 2008, 03:54 PM)

No Movement Clause (Sometimes also referred to as NTC or No Trade Clause)
Player cannot be traded without waiving that first. So, he is in control of who he can play for/where he can be traded to.
theres a difference between NMC and NTC
people with NTC can still be sent to minors, NMC people cant
FlyersGirl
Jul 9 2008, 10:13 PM
QUOTE (LeafsFanRyan52 @ Jul 9 2008, 09:56 PM)

its horrible. they gave Hagman one, but its only for his first year so i cant complain
who has the N*C on the Flyers?
Briere has a NMC
Timonen, Richards, and Gagne have NTCs
LeafsFanRyan52
Jul 9 2008, 10:41 PM
QUOTE (FlyersGirl @ Jul 9 2008, 11:13 PM)

Briere has a NMC
Timonen, Richards, and Gagne have NTCs
currently 3 d-men have N*C in Toronto (Kubina doesnt now. it comes back mid august i think. he is one of the three). half the spots, taken up with people who have the clauses. they dont deserve them either (well maybe Kaberle..)
those clauses can turn bad, but they arent as bad as the ones in TO
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