Anyone thinks the flyers have a shot at dan boyle with some type of trade. Were rumored to be one of the teams and boyle is a very good defenseman. If we could somehow clear the cap space id love it.

are jones and upshall enough to get him?

It'd be flat out awesome to see him in the Orange and Black, but I honestly don't see it happening....

Would be nice to get him but a miracle has to happen 1st.

Doesn't Boyle make something like $6+ million a year? For that much I want someone really good at both ends of the ice.

If they were to accept Upshall and Jones we would need Hatcher on LTIR or retired to afford his $6M salary (for 6 years). Also, do you want to risk paying that much to a guy who has a bad wrist, I'm not a doctor but don't wrist and ankle injuries tend to stay around? Do we really want a guy who's going to have to take a year off to travel the world looking for the right glove to fit his injured wrist? If I'm Tampa I'd rather take the Ottawa offer, Mezarros and Vermette rather than Upshall and Jones.

Makes about 7. And I agree. He's not coming here guys. Unless something crazy happens.

Love to have him, but can't see it personally.

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Let's say he's completely well rounded player (which I'm not sure he is) and I agree to take on his fat contract. The number of players they'd need to move to clear space for it would severely deplete the roster.

As much as they need a 3-4 defender, they can't do it. They'd lose out on other areas too much.

If they were to accept Upshall and Jones and Hatcher is on LTIR the Flyers would have enough money.
Jones $2.75
Upshall $1.22
Hatcher $3.50
Total = $7.47

Boyle $6.66

Absolutely. To take over his salary we'd have to lose a lot. And I don't think I'm ok with that for Boyle.

Props on the funny comment, and it also makes me think of this: Signing an injury-prone stud D-man might (that's might, not will) have the same detrimental effect as when we had Forsberg. The other players lay back and expect the stud to lead the way all the time, and then they don't know how to win when he's out of the line-up. The solid, well-balanced D corps we have now may not be such a bad thing.

No doubt someone will take this comment to it's illogical extreme and claim I am saying no one should ever sign a star player. I'm not saying that, so save yourself the trouble.

Last year's team minus Upshall, Jones, Umby, Prospal, Smith (am I missing anyone) is a fairly large blow imo. That's a lot of pieces you have to replace. I don't see Giroux, Eminger, and some of the other names stepping in and filling those shoes.

boyle had his wrist cut last yr, but hes def worth the money, he played in only 37 games last yr and had 25 points, he would be a great fit for us. Im not so sure how to get him tho. But i do know that there saying he should be dealt today.

I liked this idea before it involved trading Upshall. You all make me sick!

The pieces you would have to move to get Boyle wouldn't be worth it. First you have to match his salary, and from all reports on 610 and other sources is Homer wants Hatch back in orange and black so the chances of him going on LTIR or retiring are more of a stretch lately. Plus Upshall/Jones would not land you Boyle. yea, Boyle would be cool as that gives you 1-2-3 with timmo boyle coburn but than your other three is... Eminger, Parent Kuks? even if Eminger turns into a servicable d and parent continues his development thats still a huge gamble that could quickly break down the team.

count me out for Boyle

Off the top of my head...

Gagne > Prospal
Giroux (will be) > Umberger
Metropolit > Dowd
Boyle > Hatcher
Vaananen > Kukkonen

Upshall > no Upshall
Jones > Eminger
however
Eminger's potential > Jones's potential

Our defense is a question mark whether or not we were to make a trade like this.

From a Bolts fan on hockeybuzz:

i don't like it. as many said we'd be taking a huge gamble. maybe it would pay off. but if it didn't, we lose a young forward and a young defensmen. And thats if that trade would even be accepted.

I don't like it either. If we're going to lose something up front, I want it to be for a solid franchise d-man like Bouwmeester. Then again, I'm biased because I love Bouwmeester.

Why would the Flyers want an overpaid(6.667 cap hit) defenseman who has shown time and time again that he doesn't know what it means to play defense? And it's not like the case of Eminger or Vaananen. First, he's 31 years old, and was on some pretty good rosters while he's been in Tampa. And is still terrible on defense.

NO thank you. Buh bye.

he is so overpaid please dont do it

You also have to think - Tampa's essentially looking to dump this guy's salary (which we have no room for anyway). They'd be looking for some of our good prospects (Giroux, perhaps even JvR) and picks (which we don't have to many of), not our roster players who would equal his salary. Nothing to see here imo.

Thats a big risk. Last year he was out quite a bit if I remember right and didn't play THAT good.

Another rumor form Eklund, Come on now.

No way! Would have to trade to much to get him and may not be healthy to play an entire season.

He was asked to waive his NTC



http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=16068

Nice to get him, but it would be ridiculous what we would have to give up for him, and our cap space isn't looking good.
Eklund=idiot.

The injury last year was a fluke. A skate fell out of his locker and cut up his wrist pretty bad so he missed a bunch of time for that. Other then that he has played between 70 and 80 games a year for his whole career so durability would not be an issue for him.

If the Flyers were serious about getting him, they must think that pairing him up with a defensive defenseman such as Parent, Vaananen, etc to help cover him in the defensive zone woud make it worthwhile for them to make the move.

We don't need him IMO.

Sad thought that a 7 million dollar defenseman needs help to cover in the defensive zone. That's absurd. This guy is not worth the money and isn't what we need. Our young talent and depth is enough.

Good player, but worth the money. Sorry folks, barring a few more minor changes, we're going into camp with Timonen,Coburn,Jones,Parent,Eminger,Hatcher, Kukkonen and Vannanen.

hockeybuzz also reporting that Gator is close to becoming a Sabre......

Per Eklund:

Also Jason Smith may be closing in on a deal that would find him a Buffalo Sabre. Following this one as well as another Flyers rumour involving a d-man NOT named Boyle...

That being said I continue to hear that Boyle is on the radar of the Flyer, Sens and Sharks

Please be Bouwmeester *crosses fingers*

No, please don't go to Buffalo, Gator.

Jason Smith said in an interview back in Feb, that he wanted to finish his career in NJ. I don't see him going to Buffalo over NJ. Unless NJ refused to sign him.

That would be awesome if we could get Bouwmeester.

Bah - this is all mere speculation. We all know Eklund makes his predictions by picking a player's name out of a red box, a team's name out of a blue box and comes up with an E-rating by picking from a green box!

I don't want Boyle for his salary and the Flyers definitely can't afford him without making significant changes.

I don't remember this. I would think that a Flyers captain saying he wanted to play for another team in the middle of the season would make the paper around here.

Well if Hatcher retired I could see Homer maybe trying to move Lupul and someone else in a deal for Boyle, would fit our cap.

Though unlikely.

*slaps you*
Enough with that nonsense!

You struck me!

I didn't say I would do it I was just saying I wouldn't be surprised to see that.
Homer has gone defense crazy you know!

How high of a payroll do we have to have before people stop thinking we should get this guy or that guy??? Maybe 20mil over the cap to end the speculation? Nothing wrong with thinking about different players, but when your team is at the cap and you want to try and fit in a 6.5 mil player it gets a bit on the insane. I would rather we start now with who we have and adjust during the year.

90% of the time, I'd completely agree. When it comes to the mass hysteria of free agency, though, I think these semi-legit/legit rumors are all freely floating out there. So, it wouldn't be hard for him to compile them.

I forget where I read it, but the article was about how well the Flyers' success was so far this season, and they asked Jason Smith, on his Hockey Future, and he said he wasn't sure how many years he had left, but he would like to finish his career in NJ.

Eklund said that "A rumor has Brian Campbell's top 2 choices were Montreal and Philadelphia. I believed Montreal, but Philly... nope not at all... and the first day of Free Agency..he's locked up in the Windy City.

Not all rumors pan out to be truths. There's no reason to believe he wasn't considering Montreal or Philly before ultimately deciding that Chicago was the best fit. All I'm saying is that there's a ton of rumors out there and it would probably take more effort for Eklund to make stuff up rather than just reiterate content from any of the other readily available sources.