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Flyersfan018
Raduns- 1 year
Metropolit- 2 years
Vaananen- 1 year, $1M

Never even heard of Raduns but I remember Metropolit from Atlanta and he seemed pretty good.
goflyers412
QUOTE (Flyersfan018 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Raduns- 1 year
Metropolit- 2 years
Vaananen- 1 year, $1M

Never even heard of Raduns but I remember Metropolit from Atlanta and he seemed pretty good.

What's your source?
Flyersfan018
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:43 PM) *
What's your source?


****. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11353&am...=topRelated_nhl
The Rifle27
Vaananen played for the AVS I believe before
The Rifle27
Wow it's on the flyers site jesus christ
Model Citizen
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:43 PM) *
What's your source?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11353

Tuesday, July 1
TIME (ET) TRANSACTION
6:34PM Vancouver Canucks sign UFA forward Darcy Hordichuk to a two-year deal
6:33PM Philadelphia Flyers sign UFA forward Nate Raduns to a one-year
6:32PM Philadelphia Flyers sign UFA forward Glen Metropolit to a two-year deal
6:24PM New Jersey signs UFA forward Brian Rolston to a four year deal worth $20-million
6:15PM New York Rangers sign UFA forward Patrick Rissmiller to an undisclosed deal
6:06PM Philadelphia signs UFA defenceman Ossi Vaananen to a one year deal worth $1-million
6:01PM Columbus signs UFA defenceman Mike Commodore to a 5 year deal worth $18.75-million
5:40PM Chicago signs UFA defenceman Brian Campbell to an 8 year deal worth $56.8-million
5:04PM Buffalo signs UFA goaltender Patrick Lalime to a 2 year deal worth $2-million
4:27PM Ottawa signs UFA goaltender Alex Auld to a 2 year deal worth $2-million
4:14PM Tampa Bay signs UFA goaltender Olaf Kolzig to a 1 year deal worth $1.5-million (plus bonuses).
4:02PM Colorado signs UFA forward Darcy Tucker to a 2 year deal worth $4.5-million
3:49PM Vancouver signs RFA forward David Backes to an offer sheet, 3 years $7.5-million. St. Louis has seven days to match or accept a 2nd round draft pick as compensation.
3:43PM Chicago signs UFA goaltender Cristobal Huet (undisclosed)
3:41PM Florida signs UFA forward Cory Stillman to a 3 year deal worth $10.6-million
3:40PM NY Rangers sign UFA forward Aaron Voros (undisclosed)
3:40PM Pittsburgh signs UFA forward Eric Godard to a 3 year deal (undisclosed)
3:38PM Tampa Bay signs UFA forward Adam Hall to a 3 year deal worth $1.8-million
3:24PM Toronto signs UFA goaltender Curtis Joseph to a 1 year deal worth $700,000
3:24PM Toronto signs UFA defenceman Jeff Finger to a 4 year deal worth $3.5-million a season
3:09PM Phoenix signs UFA forward Todd Fedoruk to a 3 year deal (undisclosed)
3:07PM Detroit signs UFA goaltender Ty Conklin to a 1 year deal worth $750,000
3:07PM Montreal re-signs RFA forward Andrei Kostitsyn to a 3 year deal worth $3.25-million a season
3:03PM Colorado signs UFA goaltender Andrew Raycroft to a 1 year deal worth $800,000
2:53PM Washington signs UFA goaltender Jose Theodore to a 2 year deal (undisclosed)
2:50PM Phoenix signs UFA defenceman Kurt Sauer to a 4 year deal worth an average of $1.75-million a year
2:02PM Pittsburgh Penguins re-sign UFA defenceman Mark Eaton to a 2 year deal worth $2-million
1:58PM Minnesota Wild sign UFA forward Andrew Brunette to 3 year deal worth $7-million.
1:33PM Vancouver signs RFA forward Kyle Wellwood to a 1 year deal worth $997,500.
12:55PM Boston signs UFA forward Blake Wheeler to an entry-level contract.
12:52PM Lightning sign UFA forward Radim Vrbata to a $9-million, three-year contract.
12:04PM Anaheim re-sign forward Corey Perry to a five-year deal worth $26.625-million which will average $5.325-million a year.
11:58AM Pittsburgh Penguins sign forward Pascal Dupuis to a three-year deal which will average $1.4-million per year.
11:58AM Detroit Red Wings and veteran defenseman Brad Stuart have agreed to terms on a 4 year contract that averages 3.75 per year.
11:35AM New Jersey re-signs forwards Jay Pandolfo (3 years, $7.5-million) David Clarkson (undisclosed) and Barry Tallackson (undisclosed). Declines option on forward Sergei Brylin.
10:21AM New Jersey agrees to terms with defenceman Bryce Salvador to a four-year deal worth $11.6 million (average of $2.9 million per season).
8:45AM Washington re-signs defenceman Mike Green to a four-year deal worth $21 million (average of $5.25 million per season).
canadianflyer
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 05:43 PM) *
What's your source?


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11353
LVFlyersfan12
just got that text message..

and they signed Curry, dk who that is
goflyers412
More moves that make no sense. Is free agency over yet?
flyersgirl918
As I was reading my text I got excited because I saw Sean and I thought we signed Avery. But I then read Curry and got dissappointed. tongue.gif laugh.gif Who is Sean Curry?
FlyersGirl
QUOTE (Flyersfan018 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Raduns- 1 year
Metropolit- 2 years
Vaananen- 1 year, $1M

Never even heard of Raduns but I remember Metropolit from Atlanta and he seemed pretty good.

I amy be wrong, but Raduns looks like he will be for the Phantoms.
goflyers412
QUOTE (flyersgirl918 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:48 PM) *
As I was reading my text I got excited because I saw Sean and I thought we signed Avery. But I then read Curry and got dissappointed. tongue.gif laugh.gif Who is Sean Curry?

Who is every single other player we've signed this off-season? laugh.gif
flyersgirl918
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 06:49 PM) *
Who is every single other player we've signed this off-season? laugh.gif

That's what I'm wondering. tongue.gif
FlyersGirl
Curry looks like another move for the Phantoms.
Gagne12
Curry and Raduns, never heard of. Vannenan, 3rd line D, Metropolit, 3rd/4th line C
Model Citizen
QUOTE (FlyersGirl @ Jul 1 2008, 06:51 PM) *
Curry looks like another move for the Phantoms.

Just loading up the AHL team for when they leave Philly after this year and go to another market, they won't suck and not draw any fans
ibanez
who are these people?
SolidSnakeUS
I think it was a good decision to pick up Metropolit. He can replace Dowd, he shoots right, and he has more of a scoring touch than Dowd.
Phifly10
i think the vaananen signing is a solid signing, hes a good player
Gagne12
QUOTE (ibanez @ Jul 1 2008, 11:56 PM) *
who are these people?

Thats what im thinking as well.
Model Citizen
Metropolit will be a very good 3rd line C, but thats all he'll be. We'll run into issues if he is forced into the top 2 lines because of injuries, which, with Gagne, you never know...

Vaananen will be a season long contributor to the defense, getting solid 3rd line duties and adding needed depth. He's good, not really sure why he was overseas this past season, he could have easily made an NHL roster.

The other guys are heading to the AHL
rshnk29
Hey, guys I would like to say hi and ask who will be traded? Metropolit seems like the 4th line center Holmer wanted to get. Ossi looks like the replacement for Jones. As for Curry, who is he?
Tommy916
I like the Metropolit and Vaananen signing,solid 4th line Center. Vaananen will probably be the 3rd line on D.
Model Citizen
QUOTE (Tommy916 @ Jul 1 2008, 07:10 PM) *
I like the Metropolit signing,solid 4th line Center. Vaananen will probably play on the 3rd line on defense.

You don't say
Big Johnsons
DNL also said Cote was signed today but I don't see it anywhere
Big Johnsons
wow. Dont think that needed to be said 4 times but my computer felt differently...sorry about that
canadianflyer
Flyers just signed some minor leager named Sean Curry

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/signings_2008/
FlyersFanTN
holy crap, this server is sucking balls today, whats going on...is it th 60-70+ "guests" on here that are effing it up for the rest of us?
IronDave
We are getting quite the collection of average defensemen.
ibanez
QUOTE (Model Citizen @ Jul 1 2008, 07:12 PM) *
You don't say


+1
goflyers412
I'm not thrilled at all. Metropolit's a guy who's obviously a veteran, but has only played over 57 games in an NHL season once, and that was last year when he played all 82. He racked up a whopping, and career high 36 points. I guess he's fine for the fourth line but he is aging. Vanannen's never done anything statistics-wise, and I know you can't judge a defenseman by just stats, but haven't we signed enough no-name defensemen this off-season? Why waste the cap space?
alug12
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 08:18 PM) *
Why waste the cap space?



because we don't know what other moves holmgren is setting up with these signings?
I wanna drive the zamboni
QUOTE (alug12 @ Jul 1 2008, 08:55 PM) *
because we don't know what other moves holmgren is setting up with these signings?

>>sigh<< Canada Day last season was so much more fun than this year's....... Homer's halo has a bit of tarnish on it. (I'm not ready to take it off yet, though.)
swflyers8
Metro is a lot faster than Jim Dowd will ever be. I like this signing. I like Ossi's signing as well. If Eminger and him don't pan out, they are gone next summer. Gives them a chance to prove themselves. Smart moves by Homer. Every other team out there is overpaying for the wrong guys.
Andy
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 08:18 PM) *
I'm not thrilled at all. Metropolit's a guy who's obviously a veteran, but has only played over 57 games in an NHL season once, and that was last year when he played all 82. He racked up a whopping, and career high 36 points. I guess he's fine for the fourth line but he is aging.

And that's exactly why he was signed. To be the 4th line center. Dowd only had 10 points last season, and played VERY competently as the Flyers 4th line center. And Dowd's 5 years older. Metropolit probably has some of the best hands that the Flyers have had as 4th line center in a LONG time. Sounds to me like you really don't know much about players that don't play for the Flyers, and judge them solely by their stats. Metropolit's a good signing for that role, and there's simply no debate there.

QUOTE
Vanannen's never done anything statistics-wise, and I know you can't judge a defenseman by just stats, but haven't we signed enough no-name defensemen this off-season? Why waste the cap space?


Ossi is a defensive defenseman. Not an offensive one. And he showed last season in Djurgardens that he's capable of being more physical than he's shown in the past. And actually produced more offensively than anyone expected him to there. He's a replacement of Jones. Jonesy must just be asking for too much cash, and the Flyers can't afford it.

Good signings by Homer.

Raduns and Curry are AHL fillers.
bewareofBRIERE
Raduns- never heard of him
Metropolit- decent depth guy... basically a 4th line center that will play like knuble
Vaananen- defenseman thats never found a spot in the nhl... probably never will


not impressed so far sad.gif
goflyers412
QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 1 2008, 09:14 PM) *
And that's exactly why he was signed. To be the 4th line center. Dowd only had 10 points last season, and played VERY competently as the Flyers 4th line center. And Dowd's 5 years older. Metropolit probably has some of the best hands that the Flyers have had as 4th line center in a LONG time. Sounds to me like you really don't know much about players that don't play for the Flyers, and judge them solely by their stats. Metropolit's a good signing for that role, and there's simply no debate there.

I know hockey. I follow the NHL, not just the Flyers, and know plenty of players that don't play for the Flyers. I admitted that Metropolit is probably fine for the 4th line, but is old, and that's a concern. So let's not jump to conclusions, okay? It only makes you sound arrogant.

QUOTE
Ossi is a defensive defenseman. Not an offensive one. And he showed last season in Djurgardens that he's capable of being more physical than he's shown in the past. And actually produced more offensively than anyone expected him to there. He's a replacement of Jones. Jonesy must just be asking for too much cash, and the Flyers can't afford it.

Good signings by Homer.

Raduns and Curry are AHL fillers.


How can you say he's a replacement of Jones? The Flyers have been very close to signing Jones. Philly.com reported it would be around 2 years and $5 million (way, way too much). Vannenen sounds like nothing special, but apparently I can only dream of having the hockey knowledge that you hold. rolleyes.gif
Andy
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 09:26 PM) *
I know hockey. I follow the NHL, not just the Flyers, and know plenty of players that don't play for the Flyers. I admitted that Metropolit is probably fine for the 4th line, but is old, and that's a concern. So let's not jump to conclusions, okay? It only makes you sound arrogant.

When you make comments regarding players that show you're simply looking at their stat sheet, it sounds to me like you don't know as much about the NHL as you state here. And I'm entitled to that opinion, whether you see it as arrogant or not, and whether you like the opinion or not. Sorry, but I'll state what I feel when I care to. As I said, Dowd's age, at 5 years older than Metropolit, wasn't a concern in this past season for the Flyers. And Metropolit has MUCH better skills than Dowd has ever had in his career. Again, he probably has the best hands the Flyers have had as a 4th line center in a very long time. And that's not a bad thing by any means. And he may arguably be better defensively than Dowd is.

QUOTE
How can you say he's a replacement of Jones? The Flyers have been very close to signing Jones. Philly.com reported it would be around 2 years and $5 million (way, way too much). Vannenen sounds like nothing special, but apparently I can only dream of having the hockey knowledge that you hold. rolleyes.gif

Lol. Who sounds arrogant now, eh? I can say it because I don't believe they are going to get Jonesy resigned. I believe Homer and his staff realize they can't afford what he's asking for, and they needed a capable defensive defenseman to fill his spot. Ossi fills that role. Period.
goflyers412
QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 1 2008, 09:43 PM) *
When you make comments regarding players that show you're simply looking at their stat sheet, it sounds to me like you don't know as much about the NHL as you state here. And I'm entitled to that opinion, whether you see it as arrogant or not, and whether you like the opinion or not. Sorry, but I'll state what I feel when I care to. As I said, Dowd's age, at 5 years older than Metropolit, wasn't a concern in this past season for the Flyers. And Metropolit has MUCH better skills than Dowd has ever had in his career. Again, he probably has the best hands the Flyers have had as a 4th line center in a very long time. And that's not a bad thing by any means. And he may arguably be better defensively than Dowd is.

Okay so since we're talking opinions, here's mine- when you question someone's hockey knowledge and basically (in other words) declare that you know more, you sound like an arrogant jerk, which seems to be all that you are. Here's a newsflash for you: I never bashed Metropolit, I said I wasn't thrilled and was concerned about his age. That's all. Other than that, I don't mind him being the 4th line center, but I do think there are more pressing needs (2nd or 3rd pairing d-man).

QUOTE
Lol. Who sounds arrogant now, eh? I can say it because I don't believe they are going to get Jonesy resigned. I believe Homer and his staff realize they can't afford what he's asking for, and they needed a capable defensive defenseman to fill his spot. Ossi fills that role. Period.

Arrogant? No, that's called sarcasm. I would just like to know how you know what "Homer and his staff" are thinking and why there are making the moves that they make, beside the obvious reason that you know everything. This is a no-name defenseman who probably won't see much time with the Flyers this year, depending on what happens in the coming weeks. Period.
LOD4LIFE
What moves could the Flyers really make, they are close to the cap as it was. Most of the players that the Flyers have been picking up latley seem to young d-man, who knows they may turn out like Coburn, I to heard that Jones was any time now as far as being signed by us. At least that was reported by Chris Therien on comcast daily news today around 6pm. Who knows I can tell you this is not as fun as last year was....
Moose Dupont
QUOTE (swflyers8 @ Jul 1 2008, 09:14 PM) *
Metro is a lot faster than Jim Dowd will ever be. I like this signing. I like Ossi's signing as well. If Eminger and him don't pan out, they are gone next summer. Gives them a chance to prove themselves. Smart moves by Homer. Every other team out there is overpaying for the wrong guys.

I like the Metro signing as well. He did well for the Caps when he played for them a few years back, and like others said, he'll be a good 4th liner. Vaananen I'm vaguely familiar with, and he looks like a 3rd pairing guy. Whatever.

In Homer We Trust
United
Metrpolit will take over Dowds spot, he's a good 3rd/4th line centerman plus he's a righthanded shot. He plays with grit and character.

Good small signing by Homer!
Andy
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 09:49 PM) *
Okay so since we're talking opinions, here's mine- when you question someone's hockey knowledge and basically (in other words) declare that you know more, you sound like an arrogant jerk, which seems to be all that you are. Here's a newsflash for you: I never bashed Metropolit, I said I wasn't thrilled and was concerned about his age. That's all. Other than that, I don't mind him being the 4th line center, but I do think there are more pressing needs (2nd or 3rd pairing d-man).

I stated an opinion based on some of the things I've seen you state regarding players, and the appearance to me(my opinion) that you simply just look at their stats page when you make those statements. And you became defensive and "sarcastic" in response to that opinion. So be it. Maybe that's just a guilty conscience responding? No, you didn't bash Metropolit, and I NEVER said you did. You stated you're not thrilled, and concerned about his age. And I responded with differing opinions. That's all.

QUOTE
Arrogant? No, that's called sarcasm. I would just like to know how you know what "Homer and his staff" are thinking and why there are making the moves that they make, beside the obvious reason that you know everything. This is a no-name defenseman who probably won't see much time with the Flyers this year. Period.

I have NEVER said I "know" what Homer and his staff are thinking. If you read again, you'll notice I said "I believe...". Again, an opinion. If you disagree, then fine. You're entitled to that. But please keep the immature sarcasm in your mouth, and don't bother posting it here. It's simply just trolling. For you to state that you feel Ossi is a no-name defenseman only reinforces my opinion regarding your knowledge of players in the NHL. And I don't agree with that opinion. Many of us here who do know the NHL and it's players know who Vasnanen is. And I believe we'll see him in a Flyers uniform this season more than you think he will. Period.
goflyers412
QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 1 2008, 10:04 PM) *
I stated an opinion based on some of the things I've seen you state regarding players, and the appearance to me(my opinion) that you simply just look at their stats page when you make those statements. And you became defensive and "sarcastic" in response to that opinion. So be it. Maybe that's just a guilty conscience responding? No, you didn't bash Metropolit, and I NEVER said you did. You stated you're not thrilled, and concerned about his age. And I responded with differing opinions. That's all.

And an arrogant, I-know-more-than-you attitude. People don't take to kindly to that, for future reference...


QUOTE
I have NEVER said I "know" what Homer and his staff are thinking. If you read again, you'll notice I said "I believe...". Again, an opinion. If you disagree, then fine. You're entitled to that. But please keep the immature sarcasm in your mouth, and don't bother posting it here. It's simply just trolling. For you to state that you feel Ossi is a no-name defenseman only reinforces my opinion regarding your knowledge of players in the NHL. And I don't agree with that opinion. Many of us here who do know the NHL and it's players know who Vasnanen is. And I believe we'll see him in a Flyers uniform this season more than you think he will. Period.

You post with the kind of arrogance that you originally addressed me with, and you're going to get sarcasm. Deal with it, and lose the attitude, sport. We can debate whether or not we'll seem him much this year all we want, but the facts are that we have enough of these young defensemen, and it is taking up just that much more cap space that we could be using to get a better, more productive d-man.
OrangeAndBlack
QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 1 2008, 10:04 PM) *
I stated an opinion based on some of the things I've seen you state regarding players, and the appearance to me(my opinion) that you simply just look at their stats page when you make those statements. And you became defensive and "sarcastic" in response to that opinion. So be it. Maybe that's just a guilty conscience responding? No, you didn't bash Metropolit, and I NEVER said you did. You stated you're not thrilled, and concerned about his age. And I responded with differing opinions. That's all.


I have NEVER said I "know" what Homer and his staff are thinking. If you read again, you'll notice I said "I believe...". Again, an opinion. If you disagree, then fine. You're entitled to that. But please keep the immature sarcasm in your mouth, and don't bother posting it here. It's simply just trolling. For you to state that you feel Ossi is a no-name defenseman only reinforces my opinion regarding your knowledge of players in the NHL. And I don't agree with that opinion. Many of us here who do know the NHL and it's players know who Vasnanen is. And I believe we'll see him in a Flyers uniform this season more than you think he will. Period.


I don't want to get in the middle of an argument here, but I have to sagree with Andy (not the criticism of GoFlyers412, just the hockey part). Ossi is not a no-name defenseman. He should be and will be playing in the NHL next year.

And Metropolit is only 34. That is not old.

Nothing personal, just making an observation.

Carry on.
Andy
QUOTE (goflyers412 @ Jul 1 2008, 10:11 PM) *
And an arrogant, I-know-more-than-you attitude. People don't take to kindly to that, for future reference...

You post with the kind of arrogance that you originally addressed me with, and you're going to get sarcasm. Deal with it, and lose the attitude, sport. We can debate whether or not we'll seem him much this year all we want, but the facts are that we have enough of these young defensemen, and it is taking up just that much more cap space that we could be using to get a better, more productive d-man.

The kind of arrogance that I originally addressed you with? You mean this opinion? "Sounds to me like you really don't know much about players that don't play for the Flyers, and judge them solely by their stats." So someone making an opinion from observations of statements you make regarding players causes you to react the way you did by posting immature sarcasm? That speaks volumes itself. Maybe I was right about it just being a guilty conscience responding.

And showing disrespect by calling someone "sport" is only that. Disrespectful. You could learn a lot from your own suggestion and lose your attitude in the future when you read opinions that you disagree with.

I've said enough regarding your defensive reactions.

Back to the topic at hand. I like the signings of Metropolit and Vaananen.
Dancin' Shawny
You know I wanted a big name D-man too but the more I think of it, last year was our flash year. I think we are sorta taking for granted who we have on offense. I understand we're short in the proven department defensively, but if Eminger, Parent, or Vaananen end up stepping up to a 3rd defenseman level, we'll be more than fine. If Jones is still around there's still a chance for him to improve as well. I understand we are putting a lot in the "hope" department too and I as much as anyone want to be a Stanley Cup favorite/contender every year, but at least if this isn't gonna work we're going to have an escape plan, or perhaps some of these young kids will work for a "rental player" (which I don't like but whatever it's today's NHL) if we're gonna make a run and still need a powerful name.

Look I'm not saying Homer did good and I'm not saying he did bad. I'm just saying I think the fact we went from last to the Conference Finals, I can give him a little bit of a break at first.


At the same time I'm reserving the right to complain come December, lol.


Broad_Street_Bullies
The apple sure doen't fall far from the tree. Clarke had his moments of genius and moments where he just left you scratching your head. And now Holmgren is doing the same. Traded away Umberger for nobody at risk of losing Smith, Hatcher & Knuble. And who does he bring in to possibly replace these players??? A BUNCH OF NO NAME SCRUBS!!!! And don't tell me the team doesn't have the money. Flyers=Comcast, Comcast=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. They should have landed Redden or Campbell. How come the Rangers can continually sign big name free agents and we can't??? Kapanen gone as well why not go after Maxium Afinogenov? A player who matches Kapanens style? If Knuble goes why not go after Thomas Holmstrom another player who matches up well with what we might lose. Holmgren better not let this team fall into ruins the way Clarke did!
goflyers412
QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 1 2008, 10:36 PM) *
The kind of arrogance that I originally addressed you with? You mean this opinion? "Sounds to me like you really don't know much about players that don't play for the Flyers, and judge them solely by their stats." So someone making an opinion from observations of statements you make regarding players causes you to react the way you did by posting immature sarcasm? That speaks volumes itself. Maybe I was right about it just being a guilty conscience responding.

And showing disrespect by calling someone "sport" is only that. Disrespectful. You could learn a lot from your own suggestion and lose your attitude in the future when you read opinions that you disagree with.

I've said enough regarding your defensive reactions.

Back to the topic at hand. I like the signings of Metropolit and Vaananen.

You clearly are not getting this, or you just have to get in the last word, either way, just get over it. Again, when you accuse someone of making baseless opinions or question their hockey knowledge, you're not going to get a particularly friendly response, so get used to it. I also apologize, I didn't get the memo that "sport" was disrespectful. If I really wanted to be disrespectful, I would've used a few different words, but I won't go that far- it's not worth it. Get over yourself and move on.
NikiPHL
QUOTE (Broad_Street_Bullies @ Jul 1 2008, 10:52 PM) *
The apple sure doen't fall far from the tree. Clarke had his moments of genius and moments where he just left you scratching your head. And now Holmgren is doing the same. Traded away Umberger for nobody at risk of losing Smith, Hatcher & Knuble. And who does he bring in to possibly replace these players??? A BUNCH OF NO NAME SCRUBS!!!! And don't tell me the team doesn't have the money. Flyers=Comcast, Comcast=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. They should have landed Redden or Campbell. How come the Rangers can continually sign big name free agents and we can't??? Kapanen gone as well why not go after Maxium Afinogenov? A player who matches Kapanens style? If Knuble goes why not go after Thomas Holmstrom another player who matches up well with what we might lose. Holmgren better not let this team fall into ruins the way Clarke did!



laugh.gif Umberger trade = Sbisa and Bourdon. And it now looks like he'll be getting $4M in Columbus. And our course the team has money, heck, our salary back in 2004 was around $90M. But there's this thing called the salary cap now...and as far as I'm concerned the Rangers and Hawks can have Campbell and Redden and their crazy cap hits.
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