http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242072&...s=headlines_nhl

To be bought out.

I was hoping we would see him again.
Condolences, Goatsey.

this ******* sucks deleted deleted *** **** crap deleted deleted *** deleted

**** meh I don't care, you can always find someone better than him.

Dammit, I liked him

It's good for Gauthier, he should be able to crack another teams lineup now.

^ im sorry i dont think i understand whether you like him being placed on waivers or not

Awww. G.O.A.T. will be devastated.



GAAH. One of these days, the Flyers will get a good player named Kyle!

I liked Gauthier because watching him play was very entertaining, but his salary was a killer. Good for him.

They are buying him out? What a waste of cap space. They should have left him in the AHL.

does it go against the cap? i honestly dont think the flyers thought about keeping him down. he's an nhl defenseman. granted, not all that great, but he belongs in the big leagues

Yes, it does. He is a NHL defenseman, but the Flyers are too close to the cap to be wasting on buyouts.

im sorry my rage got the best of me I loved GOAT and wish him the best is what I was trying to say

The Philadelphia Flyers have put defenceman Denis Gautheir Jr. on waivers for the purpose of buying him out.

Gauthier, acquired at the 2006 trade deadline from Phoenix for two second round picks, played last season in the AHL. He scored 3 goals and 15 assists for 18 points for the Philadelphia Phantoms, and was a +16 with 80 penalty minutes in 78 games.

The Flyers also acquired 6'1", 194-pound defenceman Tim Ramholt from the Calgary Flames in exchange for left wing Kyle Greentree.

Ramholt, 23, recorded four goals and 20 assists for 24 points and 73 penalty minutes in 77 regular season games for the Quad City Flames of the AHL.

Greentree, 24, posted 24 goals and 24 assists for 48 points and 83 penalty minutes in 72 games with the Flyers AHL affiliate.


Another Dman. Starting to wonder what's up Homers sleve.

homers got something giong on with us getting another d man

How bold of Holmgren.

Someone please make sense of it all.

My condolences, G.O.A.T.

MERGE

I'm still curious as to why everyone is deeply upset from Gauthier leaving. I know he was entertaining and was known for being a team player, but its not like were losing a star defensemen.

Anyway, I wonder what Holmgren has planned.

Is GOAT making 2.2 mil?

Quality move by Holmgren. Fast skater, plays hard to get the puck, will help Sbisa ease into the North American game.

Correct

Cap situation updated.

Link: Cap situation

Jeez, I had hoped by some miracle someone would claim him. maybe Nashville or NJ, but not for that price.

Yeah I'm thinking over the past two weeks Homer has basically told us that he is not going to sign another d-man... which is a very Phillies thing to do. It's disappointing me.

i think the flyers are loyal to a fault, remember they let rathje try to come back. im sure they promised him he wouldnt be on the phantoms next year.

We're saving $1,366,667 on Gauthier, and we're getting an inexpensive, fast d-man. I hate to lose Greentree as well in the deal, but some eggs had to be broken. I think Holmgren is doing his best to clean house from old, bad deals.

I notice your cap post has Eminger at 1.2 mil. Do you have a link; I've been looking for the number for a while now.

Am I wrong in thinking that the Flyers have to put Gautier on waivers again this season to send him down to the minors? That would be my first thought on why they put him on waivers. Why would they care to save 1/3 of his salary and eat up more cap space? Doesn't make sense. Is there any stipulation that because he was put on waivers last year that a buyout wouldn't count against the cap?

Eminger Signing

I don't have a problem w/ trading Greentree for Ramholt, I do question the prudence of possibly buying out his contract when you could just as easily leave him in the AHL for the season. I don't get it.

No, the buyout counts. But they actually save 2/3 of his salary for each of 2 years (in other words, that 1/3 savings is doubled and stretched out over twice the remaining years).

What horrible news.
Buying him out also doesn't make any sense at all ether given our cap situation.
Instead of not taking a cap hit and letting him walk after this season they elect to pay him over the course of a couple years to leave now?

Hopefully one of these mediocre defensemen we keep acquiring manage to surpass there subpar potential.

Well best of luck to him wherever he ends up he does deserve to play in the NHL.
If Gauthier and Avery end up on the same team my loyalty to the Flyers may be called into question

The way I see it, they aren't saving anything since he wasn't counting against the cap due to him being in the AHL.

Gauthier counted against the cap last season, and he would have again this season. He has a one-way contract, so even though he's playing in the AHL, he counts against the cap.

i was kidding and just poking some good fun at you....
its quite alright. i think we'll all miss him.

i think he will end up playing on a pro team now. i have a feeling someone will claim him on waivers before we buy him out. and if they are so willing to give him up now, why didn't they call him up in the playoffs if the fear was that we'd lose him, since they dont want him anyway? we could've gotton some good use of him and maybe could have put up a better fight against the pens.

or maybe im just way too optomistic...

He's a solid d-man who played well here when he had a chance. I haven't noticed anyone particular distraught over it (beside Goatsey, who is sulking at the moment I'm sure), but I would've liked to see him instead of Jones next season.

Can we assume now that Hatch is not retiring??

Why didn't we ever call him up then? I'd imagine he would've been a more viable option that Modry.

EDIT: Here's an article on Ramholt from Meltzer.

Well if this is true, then this was definitely the right move.

He wouldn't have cleared re-entry waviers.

i woudlnt say so just yet, even with gautier leaving, we still have an abundance of d men on our roster at the moment
i can still see hatcher deciding to retire

That's not true. The only reason Gauthier was in the AHL was because we were hard on cash.

totally disagree

Ah, right. sorry, momentary lapse.

I think the portion of the report where they say they plan to buy him out might not be correct.

If you look on the NHL page of TSN's website the time line lists today as the final day that you can buy a player out. If Gauthier was put on waivers today, he will not clear until tomorrow at which point they would not be able to buy him out. It might just be a move to see if anyone wants to take him and if not to send him to the Phantoms to clear cap space.

I would not be too surprised if he was claimed this time. His salary is not that bad for 1 year and there are a number of teams like LA, Atlanta and Columbus who still need to add a good amount of salary to reach the cap floor and Gauthier would be a good option for them. He can play in the NHL and with only 1 year left they would not have to worry about carrying him beyond this coming season if they have prospects that they believe will be ready the following year.

He did not count against the cap last season and would not this season if he plays in the AHL. By being on the one way contract he gets paid the same when he is in the minors unlike someone with a two way contract, but he would have to be on the Flyers to count against the cap.

No, he doesn't. Players that are sent to the AHL do not count against the cap regardless of whether it is a 1 way contract or not.

Meltzer seems to think they are just sending him back down to the AHL to clear his salary off the cap again.

I hope he is right. A buyout makes no sense at this point.

Edited to add: I wonder if this means Hatcher will be back next season? I thought Goat might get a chance if Hatcher retired.

You are correct. I just re-read Article 13 and he would not have counted this season.

But during the off-season, he does count. [Article 50.5 d.i.A.1.]