What needs to be done? Predicitons of off season moves? Will Homer come up big again? Discuss.



GREAT YEAR FLYERS!!

Never thought I'd have so much fun in the playoffs this year. Went further and I got to cheer alot more than I thought I would.

Get Giroux in here.
Get better on d.
Lets Go Flyers

I believe the flyers just need to improve upon their D. The forwards are pretty decent just some minor changes. I look foreward to Giroux next year and also ryan parent

on the web: ban fans of oppposing teams from soiling our fan site
on the ice: speed, speed, speed, and guys who can finish...not saying most of our guys can't but i'd like to see more consistent scoring

Is Giroux really ready for the jump to the NHL next year though. I'd like to see him put on a little weight first, maybe get some experience in the AHL for just a little bit.

Faster and younger on Defense, make Richards the Captain, get Gagne back healthy.

he's being then briere though.

This year, a good team. Next year, a great team.

-Defense will improve
-Giroux will be playing with us
-Gagne returns

What's not to like?

Better defense, less turnovers, some improvement in goal tending by Biron, More speed and hopefully a Stanley Cup

I would like to see them trade for a young defenseman like Suter, Weber, Bouwmeester, or Seabrook if possible.

Carter for Weber...I'd take it.

Get either Bouwmeester or Campbell in here... preferably both if possible.

Bring Giroux up, and pray that Gagne can come back and play at the top of his game all season long.

Personally, I think they're young enough with Coburn, Parent, and Kukkonen, and the likes of Smith and Modry probably leaving. I'd like to see Campbell and/or Liles or Boumeester here via free agency...

You guys think we should trade Biron, or maybe bring in another quality goaltender (if possible) to help alleviate the pressure off of Biron?

agreed

The problem is there's not much out there. I'd be open to adding another goaltender though. Biron played great at times in these playoffs but I'm still not sold that he is the answer to the goaltender situation...

The salary cap situation is really scary. They really don't have a lot of space to work with. I don't think they have enough money to re-sign their own guys let alone bring in new talent. They have too much money tied up in guys like Hartnell and Briere. If they re-sign Carter or Umberger, I can't see how they can bring in even a middle-of-the-road FA defenseman.

How much money should the Flyers have to spend this offseason? Assuming they sign neither Carter nor Umberger.

Our goaltending is ALWAYS the question in the off-season. Personally, I don't think Nitty or Biron are the true answer but who could we get that'd be an upgrade over Biron?

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=PHI

Because I'm new to these boards this season and I can't create a new thread yet... I'll post it here:

Thanks for a great season Flyers. And thanks to all you who post here. 2007-2008 has been a blast!!

It depends where the cap is set. The most recent rumor had the cap going up to $56.3 million which would give them $8M to re-sign their players and spend on the UFA market.

IMO, the only real way we get a D-man thats out there, is by Trade.

we have a very bright future.
dont forget about jvr!

I looks like we only have 1.2 million next season under the cap? If that is true that's not good, so that means we can't sign some of the guys back obvioulsy not under contract. So most of the UFA are gone, unless we get creative. Some of the D men are def. gone so that's good.

Tell me that I am reading this chart right or not.

itll go up more when the league figures out how much itll raise the cap by

also like flyersgirl said, I have a feeling the cap will go a good amount.

everyone always says "we just need to pickup a good puck moving d man"

the problem is, there isnt too many out there......which is why they are coveted by everyone

i say trade carter for a young dman....someone suggested weber, id take that in a heartbeat

carter could be the best player in the league, but imo he doesnt have the desire to be. we have seen flashes of sheer dominance by jeff, but then he will disappear. i would trade him while his value is at the ceiling

he doesnt show the heart/effort that i like to see in a guy that we would likely pay around 5 million dollars to be the third center......but thats me

i would like us to go after liles...i believe hes an UFA.....he can flat out fly and was very good on the PP for COL.....him and coburn would be an awesome d pair

But not by much. That's why I can't understand why people keep making it sound like it's going to be so easy to sign a FA defenseman AND re-sign Carter, Umberger, and Jones. Something has to give. I don't envy Holmgren's task this offseason. They may need to regress a bit and then get better again the following year.

Keep: Umberger, Jones, Cote, Thoresen
Get rid of: Dowd, Fitzpatrick, Modry, Prospal, Smith

Get: Huselius, Weber

Dowd played way beyond my expectations this year. I say we keep him for utility purposes. Modry and Fitzpatrick can be waived. I say trade Prospal and Smith for a D-man.

Ok here is my first wacky trade proposal off the offseason:

To Vancouver: Briere, Lupul
To Philly: Kesler, Edler, Schneider, 2nd

Gagne - Richards - Hartnell
Umberger - Carter - Knuble
Upshall - Kesler - Giroux
Thoresen - Dowd - Kappy

Timonen - Coburn
Hatcher - Edler
Parent - Jones
Kukkonen

Biron
Nitty

Schneider starts for the Phantoms. Downie starts off down there, too.

haha kesler on a line with upshall.

its funny, because they hate each other

I love that trade idea.

Lol, Kesler with Upshall.

I wouldn't do that trade though, we lose alot of offense in Briere and Lupul.

What is the chance that VanRiemsdyk will be on the Flyers next year?

He's gonna be at UNH again I believe.

I was thinking that too. I think Umberger hates Kesler too, so I can't imagine what the team chemistry would be like.

Bring up Giroux.

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True it is a lot of offense to lose, but we add Gagne's offense back to the lineup along with adding Giroux and Kesler's offense. We would also be subtracting two players that can't play in their own zone and adding two players that are good two-way players (Kesler and Giroux) on top of Gagne's two-way play. I think it would balance out in the end. On top of that we add a good, young, defenseman and a legit goalie prospect. We would also save a ton of dough to sign someone if we wish to do that.

Though I admit it is pretty wacky cause I don't see such a trade going down.



0. He already decided to go back to UNH for another year. He should be here the following season.

I can't wait to see a highlight video from his next year in college.

I wouldn't hold too high expectations for Giroux. That league is notorious for producing players that can score like madmen down there but don't cut it in the NHL. I'm not suggesting that will happen, but don't expect the kid to score 60 goals either.

I thought that too... then i watched his training video... he races against freakin horses!

True... but we could use his play making ability and speed. This team flat out needs some more speed/skill players.... Especially around Briere. Gagne has me worried with this concussion, even for next year. We need to plan for the future a bit skill wise IMO. We made one **** of a run this year, but let's not let this great season cloud our judgment for this team as far as future is concerned. I'd like to see more skill players brought up or obtained by trade/draft etc..

but see the thing that scares me is that carter is underutilized and when he gets his opportunity (when richards got hurt) he shines and he single handedly saved our season. idk why people are gettin on carter, i personally think he doesnt get enough opportunities and if he goes somewhere else and becomes a top 6 forward hes gonna become the next justin williams or patrick sharp, where everyone will say thats another one that got away. hes a great player and not to mention hes an exceptional two way player which is hard to come by these days...

that exceptional 2-way player let hossa go right by him for a goal in game 3.

Personally i assume prospal is gone like everyone else...i have said this entire year that briere would b a solid winger in a martin st louis way, and i wouldnt mind seeing next year the lines being richards centering gagne and briere, carter centering hartnell and lupul, then prob umberger centering upshall and giroux then maybe downie, kapanen, dowd or thoresen, depending on who's back

ur talkin about that soft goal that biron let go. not to mention it went thru kukkonens legs, and last time i checked dmen were more responsible for covering forwards than forwards were...in case u didnt catch any of the series, carters line was out there against crosby or malkins line every shift of every game.. and game 3 when the flyers sucked, i believe the announcers said that carter was the only decent flyers forward on the ice. so watch some hockey and think before u speak

carter could of ended it before it started.
i love him and think he's a very good player.
buti dont consider him excepptional on the d side.
mayber in a few years. he also needs to learn how to use his size.