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Retire#27
I guess I'll get it started.

Obviously not a good hit, you need to be a little more aware of the other player's position when you are going at him. But, on the other side, Bergeron needs to stay out of such an unprotected position (bent-over, a couple feet from the boards when you know someone is pursuing you). You leave yourself open to injury when you don't prepare to be hit. I see that more and more from "younger" players (partly due to the "new" rules I would guess).

Let's hope everything turns out OK for Bergeron and he gets back on the ice as soon as possible. He is a great player to watch.
tboutcher
Will Jones get yet another 25 game suspension for this one?
Great Horned Owl
Geez are you pathetic. It's only the 2nd period & you already run to the computer to post a topic on the Jones hit. LOL get a life will you ?? Atleast wait til the game is over !!!
FlyersGirl
Homer's comments to Tim Panaccio:

“It was the correct call,” Holmgren told me. “It’s unfortunate. There was no vicious intent on Randy. He’s one of the most gentleman players in the game. It’s unfortunate because [Bergeron] is on the top, young players in the game.

“He hit him the way he is supposed to but when he [Bergeron] turned back, he was far enough from the boards where any contact was going to push him into the boards.”
catchthesun
QUOTE (Great Horned Owl @ Oct 27 2007, 05:28 PM) *
Geez are you pathetic. It's only the 2nd period & you already run to the computer to post a topic on the Jones hit. LOL get a life will you ?? Atleast wait til the game is over !!!

I don't think it was necessary to say that at all. It is possible to be on the computer AND watching the game at the same time.

As for the hit, it was clean. Jones had no intent and its very unfortunate that Bergeron got hurt.
PhilaFlyer85
Let me start by saying I hope Bergeron has a full, speedy recovery. Randy Jones didn't intend to hurt him at all.

If Bergeron gets hit by Jones just like he did and gets up right away, there's not even a minor penalty called. There was no initial penalty called and then a few second ran off the clock before the whistle was blown and then he was down on the ice for about 15 minutes and all the sudden it's a 5 minute major penalty. That's what I can't stand. If it's a penalty, then it's a penalty but I hate "after the fact" penalties that are determined based on injury or crowd reaction.

But like I said, I hope he recovers fully.
G.O.A.T.
QUOTE (catchthesun @ Oct 27 2007, 05:32 PM) *
I don't think it was necessary to say that at all. It is possible to be on the computer AND watching the game at the same time.

As for the hit, it was clean. Jones had no intent and its very unfortunate that Bergeron got hurt.


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Don't question the Great Horned Owl!

He obviously has better things to do on his Saturday like reply to the post smile.gif
Retire#27
QUOTE (Great Horned Owl @ Oct 27 2007, 05:28 PM) *
Geez are you pathetic. It's only the 2nd period & you already run to the computer to post a topic on the Jones hit. LOL get a life will you ?? Atleast wait til the game is over !!!

So then what are you doing on the computer, genious? I happen to have a well-paying job, so I can afford a special thing that people call a "laptop." I didn't have to run anywhere. (Isn't that neat?) Are you kidding me? Get a life? I'm not the divorced 42 year old that enjoys going into the woods to look at owls and is obsessed with Elvis. Come on, look at yourself before you talk next time. I can't imagine why anyone would divorce such a great owl-watcher.
PhilaFlyer85
QUOTE (G.O.A.T. @ Oct 27 2007, 05:33 PM) *
ohmy.gif

Don't question the Great Horned Owl!

He obviously has better things to do on his Saturday like reply to the post smile.gif


Yeah it's still daylight out...shouldn't he still be sleeping? Then again, maybe Temple had a game this afternoon.
Retire#27
OK, now that's out of the way. Back to the topic.
FlyersGirl
Randy Jones:

"Words really can't express the way that I feel right now. I am very apologetic for the hit and what I did. It was not intentional. It is something that I have never done before and it is not part of my character. I am extremely sorry. I hope he does ok and everything works out for him. I wish him nothing but the best in his recovery."
catchthesun
QUOTE (G.O.A.T. @ Oct 27 2007, 05:33 PM) *
ohmy.gif

Don't question the Great Horned Owl!

I'm willing to take my chances. wink.gif

Retire #27 & GHO, I don't even know what that was about. Do you two know each other?
Retire#27
QUOTE (catchthesun @ Oct 27 2007, 05:42 PM) *
I'm willing to take my chances. wink.gif

Retire #27 & GHO, I don't even know what that was about. Do you two know each other?

No, actually that was the first time that I've seen him post. I don't take well to uninstigated attacks.
Kappy
Just stop with the insults, m'kay?
G.O.A.T.
QUOTE (Retire#27 @ Oct 27 2007, 05:46 PM) *
No, actually that was the first time that I've seen him post. I don't take well to uninstigated attacks.


I have seen a few of his other posts.

He has always struck me as an old grumpy man tongue.gif
G.O.A.T.
On the topic though if Jones gets a big suspension I hope we call up Gauthier.
catchthesun
QUOTE (Retire#27 @ Oct 27 2007, 05:46 PM) *
No, actually that was the first time that I've seen him post. I don't take well to uninstigated attacks.

Understandable!

QUOTE (Kappy @ Oct 27 2007, 05:48 PM) *
Just stop with the insults, m'kay?

Fully agreed. Cool it, boys.
Deuces Wild
QUOTE (G.O.A.T. @ Oct 27 2007, 02:50 PM) *
On the topic though if Jones gets a big suspension I hope we call up Gauthier.


I hope we call up Guenin, but that's highly unlikely that Jones gets suspended unless the league is mentally retarded.
Retire#27
QUOTE (catchthesun @ Oct 27 2007, 05:51 PM) *
Understandable!
Fully agreed. Cool it, boys.

I already buried the hatchet. I'm not on here to sling around mindless insults.
Retire#27
QUOTE (G.O.A.T. @ Oct 27 2007, 05:50 PM) *
On the topic though if Jones gets a big suspension I hope we call up Gauthier.

A suspension is totally unwarranted. I was surprised by the late game misconduct call. Looked like a double roughing call (4 minutes) or boarding.
G.O.A.T.
QUOTE (Deuces Wild @ Oct 27 2007, 05:56 PM) *
I hope we call up Guenin, but that's highly unlikely that Jones gets suspended unless the league is mentally retarded.


The NHL seems to go by what the public says.

When they have a meeting to discuss the punishment they turn on ESPN and see what they say the NHL should do.
FlyersGirl
FlyersForTheCup, I merged your topic with this one so we don't have multiple topics on this same subject. Let's just keep all of the Randy Jones related topics together.
tina78
QUOTE (Great Horned Owl @ Oct 27 2007, 04:28 PM) *
Geez are you pathetic. It's only the 2nd period & you already run to the computer to post a topic on the Jones hit. LOL get a life will you ?? Atleast wait til the game is over !!!


Don't think it is necessary to insult. It is a strong topic, and he was eager to post it. If it wasn't up already i would have myself. cool.gif

QUOTE (catchthesun @ Oct 27 2007, 04:32 PM) *
I don't think it was necessary to say that at all. It is possible to be on the computer AND watching the game at the same time.

As for the hit, it was clean. Jones had no intent and its very unfortunate that Bergeron got hurt.


Yes, i am sometimes on the laptop and watching the game. wink.gif

On the other note, Jones didn't mean to. He was just playing the game.
He made a very classy apology. biggrin.gif
Retire#27
QUOTE (FlyersForTheCup @ Oct 27 2007, 06:03 PM) *
Randy didnt leave his feet Patrice slowed down suddenly and Randy wasnt aware that he did
Should John Stevens Be Penalized?

People just need to calm down

All the people that replied are fans of Canadian teams! Is it safe to say that Canada is afraid of the Flyers?

Nice link. I was thinking the same thing. "I dont want any philly fans answering since they are biased." BIASED. Then you gets Leafs, Canadiens, Senators fans commenting. Could they be biased? Nah.
My Bruins
Bruins fan here.

Although I thought the hit by Jones was cheap and I wanted his head knocked off...

I greatly respect him for issuing a written statement so quickly. In fact, it was read between the 2nd and 3rd periods.

His statement was sincere and from the heart and I'm glad he issued one so quickly. I don't think I recall any athlete in any sport issue an apology for something like this so fast.

Here's his statement

Words really can't express the way that I feel right now. I am very apologetic for the hit and what I did. It was not intentional. It is something that I have never done before and it is not part of my character. I am extremely sorry. I hope he does OK and everything works out for him. I wish him nothing but the best in his recovery."

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins...as/bruins_blog/

Classy apology Jones. We're praying for Patrice.
Kappy
Jones is a classy guy. He's not a dirty player.
The Mighty Tim
QUOTE (FlyersForTheCup @ Oct 27 2007, 11:03 PM) *
Randy didnt leave his feet Patrice slowed down suddenly and Randy wasnt aware that he did
Should John Stevens Be Penalized?

People just need to calm down

All the people that replied are fans of Canadian teams! Is it safe to say that Canada is afraid of the Flyers?


All the people that replied also have serious grammar/spelling problems too, it would seem!
nhlhockey
It was an unfortunate and awkward hit. The Flyers and Jones will now have to wait to see how the league decides to handle this. I suspect fines and suspensions will be handed out by Monday.
The Mighty Tim
For those who have not seen it (like me until a few minutes ago), I found a video of the hit, courtesy of a link on the ESPN boards.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6xAEetam6HQ
KClark036
I hope Bergeron is ok and it isn't too serious.

As for the hit, it was a board and I think the ref gave the correct call in this case. Jones is NOT a dirty player and is one of the least physical defensemen on the Flyers blueline. He was already in the act of laying the hit on Bergeron and couldn't really hold up. Bergeron didn't help himself either by stopping, which made the hit worse than it would have been. If he doesn't stop that hit results in Jones just riding Bergeron out into the boards. I don't think the hit warrants a suspension but it wouldn't surprise me one is issued. I'd say 3 games at most.

A lot of people that are going to call hit dirty will say that you're taught never to hit a player in the numbers, but you're also taught to keep your head on a swivel and to always protect yourself when going into the corners so you don't get hurt.
My Bruins
Great news.

NESN is reporting Bergeron has regained consciousness and has full mobility.

He has a broken nose and a concussion.

Thank god!!!

Now let's all cheer on the Red Sox!!!!
KClark036
QUOTE (My Bruins @ Oct 27 2007, 07:08 PM) *
Great news.

NESN is reporting Bergeron has regained consciousness and has full mobility.

He has a broken nose and a concussion.

Thank god!!!

Now let's all cheer on the Red Sox!!!!


That's really good news. Hopefully he has a quick recovery and is back on the ice in a few weeks.
My Bruins
QUOTE (KClark036 @ Oct 27 2007, 06:10 PM) *
That's really good news. Hopefully he has a quick recovery and is back on the ice in a few weeks.


Thanks. Bergeron is a terrific player and I'm glad it's only a broken nose and concussion.

boston.com is also reporting that he's OK..

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins...as/bruins_blog/
MadSpRacer
QUOTE (Retire#27 @ Oct 27 2007, 06:00 PM) *
A suspension is totally unwarranted. I was surprised by the late game misconduct call. Looked like a double roughing call (4 minutes) or boarding.


I agree with you totally, a suspension is unwarranted. I feel terrible to what happen to Bergeron and I hope he has a full recovery as fast as possible, but it was not a that bad of a hit, it was just a bad situation for both players. Bergeron got into a bad defenseless position, and Jones just followed through with a hit. Ya he got hit from behind but there was no intent to injury in that hit. I just hope people don't overreact to this hit because of the injury to Bergeron, but it all ready happen with Jones getting a 5 minute major and a game misconduct, that was a bad call that I think the refs overreacted to the situation. In my opinion there should be no suspension to Jones because there was no intent, Bergeron just got into a bad position.
MadSpRacer
I just heard that Bergeron suffered a Broken Nose and a Concussion, plus he has full movement through his whole body. So that is good news to hear considering it look real bad on the ice.
The Mighty Tim
QUOTE (My Bruins @ Oct 28 2007, 12:08 AM) *
Great news.

NESN is reporting Bergeron has regained consciousness and has full mobility.

He has a broken nose and a concussion.

Thank god!!!

Now let's all cheer on the Red Sox!!!!


This is great news!
SoJer4
QUOTE (My Bruins @ Oct 27 2007, 07:15 PM) *
Thanks. Bergeron is a terrific player and I'm glad it's only a broken nose and concussion.

boston.com is also reporting that he's OK..

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins...as/bruins_blog/


great, glad to hear that he will be OK. smile.gif
KClark036
QUOTE (wilmer777 @ Oct 27 2007, 07:33 PM) *
RANDY JONES IS a LOSER SAME THING BOBBY CLARK my tabarnack BOBBY CLARK THINK YOU YOU HAVE INJURY THE BEST PLAYER IN RUSSIA VALERI KHARLAMOV

THINK TO IT MY LOSER MY TABARNACK

Tabarnack?
MadSpRacer
QUOTE (wilmer777 @ Oct 27 2007, 07:33 PM) *
RANDY JONES IS a LOSER SAME THING BOBBY CLARK my tabarnack BOBBY CLARK THINK YOU YOU HAVE INJURY THE BEST PLAYER IN RUSSIA VALERI KHARLAMOV

THINK TO IT MY LOSER MY TABARNACK


Man I am lost, what in the world are you talking about. Get over yourself. Also what the **** is a Tabarnack
tina78
QUOTE (wilmer777 @ Oct 27 2007, 07:33 PM) *
RANDY JONES IS a LOSER SAME THING BOBBY CLARK my tabarnack BOBBY CLARK THINK YOU YOU HAVE INJURY THE BEST PLAYER IN RUSSIA VALERI KHARLAMOV

THINK TO IT MY LOSER MY TABARNACK



QUOTE (wilmer777 @ Oct 27 2007, 07:35 PM) *
PHILADELPHIA JUST A BUM GANGS


*cough* TROLL *cough*
Plus, i think your key is stuck on Caps Lock. laugh.gif

Anywho, i am so happy Bergeron is okay. I am happy he is doing well and wish him a speedy recovery. smile.gif
FlyersGirl
Ignore the troll
SoJer4
Been reading a few other teams MBs and they're saying fine the team and Stevens and such, go ahead, we have all the Comcast money anyway. wink.gif
Cyberflyer
Aside from the hit which was unfortunate, this was a great road win for the Flyers, Richards goal was sweet and Lupul has shown he was a great trade for this team.
PensFreak
The Flyers have had a number of suspensions already due to a bunch of dirty hits. There has been injury potential in all of them, and tonights hit was the worst. Any of the three hits could have ended up like this, with these guys going for the head/ This was a clear, deliberate attempt to injure that succeeded, a blatant elbow to the back of the head, smashing Bergeron's head against the boards. If hits like this continue to occur, there may be many more serious injuries. The Flyers coach needs to get control of his players, because if things keep escalating at this rate, we may see another Moore/Bertuzzi incident.



It's fine to be a tough team, to be gritty and physical. It's not fine to try to injure the other teams' players. And the Flyers' players have crossed this line three times too many.
letsgocanes
Would not expect any less from the Flyers organization!
PensFreak
Tabernack= Quebec lingo for F***. Except worse. If you say it on the street, you're liable to get punched.
tina78
QUOTE (letsgocanes @ Oct 27 2007, 08:12 PM) *
Would not expect any less from the Flyers organization!


Great another Troll.

Ugh. rolleyes.gif

Could we please stop crucifying Randy Jones. Yes it was a bad hit, but please, Jones is not a bad guy or dirty. Why is this such a big deal and outbreak. My god, it is so sad Patrice got hurt, but Jones didn't mean to. I really want to punch all you god dam* TROLLS!

%*&^$#@@#$%^&*%$#@!
G.O.A.T.
Do MODS have the power to ban people?
PensFreak
He deserves a twenty game suspension. The Flyers are a tough team, but they are beginning to cross the line from tough to dirty. If things continue on like this and continue to escalate, it will only be a matter of time until we see another Bertuzzi/Moore incident. And I believe on forums, only ADMINS have the power to ban people. Mods can just make fun of people and edit their posts to say something stupid lmao
tina78
QUOTE (PensFreak @ Oct 27 2007, 08:19 PM) *
He deserves a twenty game suspension. The Flyers are a tough team, but they are beginning to cross the line from tough to dirty. If things continue on like this and continue to escalate, it will only be a matter of time until we see another Bertuzzi/Moore incident. And I believe on forums, only ADMINS have the power to ban people. Mods can just make fun of people and edit their posts to say something stupid lmao


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