Doesn't matter to me if it's Richards, Gagne, or Timonen. They all showed how vital they are to the team and either one of them deserve the C.

There is no point in giving Timonen the "C" only take to it away after a season of two. Just give it to Richards now.

gagne? no thanks. he is a great player, but not a great leader. he is a pretty boy and he is heartless. no thanks.

RICHARDS DESERVES THE "C".

I think it should be Richards. I feel he is ready. He showed so much improvement last season as far as leadership is concerned. Richards is the face of this franchise and will be for a long time. Not giving him the captaincy would just be delaying the inevitable.

Even if Richards isn't quite ready yet, giving him the "C" now would help his development. Richards is a great learner and would learn a lot from the experience. There are enough leaders on this team that if Richards struggled as captain that they could hold this team together.

There is no point in giving Timonen the "C" only take to it away after a season of two. Just give it to Richards now.

Kimmo is on contract until 2013 and Richards is here until 2020, so there is no rush to make him a captain. There is also no reason to rush his progress and possibly put extra pressure on Richards right now. I'm sure he knows that the Flyers front office and fans expect him to be a monster this year, so why add to it by placing a "C" on his sweater?

Sure, there will come a time that he will be the Captain, but let him develop a little further with expressing opinions to the media, being the liason between the coach/team, and whatnot.

scott hartnell deserves the C.

scott hartnell deserves the C.

If Hartnell got a C I think Realist would jump over the boards at a game and tear the C off his jersey and stick it on himself. Its a right mind and I would fully back it.

Your going to have to give some reasoning to go along with that statement.

I'll throw some fuel on the fire: he is one of the most vocal guys on the team, especially on the bench, and he plays hard every game.

Ok, your description makes me think of Cote.

Cote should be captain.

my vote is for cote

hey i just said that!

Seriously, Hartnell for captain. And we must get Cote into the All Star game. Start campaigning now!

Seriously, Hartnell for captain. And we must get Cote into the All Star game. Start campaigning now!

Since this thread has started heading down that path already... my vote is for Asham.

I think that Niitty should be handed the C. Screw the rules against it!

the c will stand for crap

Do you have a "S" on your shirt ?

no but i do have dart board with nittys face on it

How long have you been playing for the Flyers? It's nice to have an insider's perspective on things.

the c will stand for crap

Do you have a "S" on your shirt ?

don't need to be on the team to see that gagne is a pretty boy and plays like a sissy. he is also one concussion away from his career being over.

and i thought he was asked by hitchcock a few years back and he turned it down? don't see what makes him more qualified now.

I understand your frustration, but the world of the cap is a lot different the NHL of 10 years ago. Smith is gone for one thing. Umberger isn't that young any more. And Carter was more of a priority to sign than him. I'm not sure why you put Umberger before Carter on your priority list, considering we drafted Carter. I know a lot of people loved Umberger for his effort (I'm one of them), but considering our cap situation and the talent that we currently have on the roster and the talent that is waiting to enter the roster, Umberger was a necessary sacrifice. Considering that we only have 6 skaters over 30 [Asham (30), Briere (30), Timonen (33), Metropolit (34), Knuble (36), and Hatcher (36)], and 2 of them are bit-part 4th-liners, 1 of them may barely play this year, and another will probably be traded during the season, I'd say we're going in the right direction as far as getting the most out of our youth. Umberger played well in the playoffs, but don't forget that 21 of his 50 regular season points came against just 3 teams (2 of them non-division). Then he had 2 pts in 7 games against Washington in the playoffs, 9 pts in 5 games against Montreal, then 4 pts in 5 games against Pittsburgh. That's the kind of consistency he shows all the time.

I don't think the whole thing is a lack of loyalty at all. It's business.

Seriously, Hartnell for captain. And we must get Cote into the All Star game. Start campaigning now!

I like carter but I feel umberger was just as important and it's not like umberger was old. Also to say anyting about the numbers our players put up isn't fair because of injury our lines were messed up all season. and what umberger put up 50 points last season and carter put up 53 and umberger played 8 games less than carter. Umberger was getting paid upper 2mil.s to 3 1/2 mil. region , smith was getting 4mil. hatcher was getting in the upper 2mil. we cut both those guys that would of gave us enough room to sign umberger with room to spare. Whats even more pathetic is that we signed metropolit to replace umberger what a joke. There's not anything we can do now besides talk about the questionable move.

Carter has a lot more potential than umberger does and thats why homer kept him over umby. And if you want to talk numbers...umberger scored what? 13 goals last season? Weren't 8 of them against the penguins? That leaves five goals against all the other teams the flyers played whereas Carter put 29 in this season and could possibly hit the 40 mark next season. As far as smith and hatchers salaries to make room, we needed that money to get defensive depth which we lacked a lot this year, not more offensive power (umberger) which we have plenty of. and metropolit is a dowd replacement, not umberger. What homer did with umberger was necessary to make room to get more dmen because thats what we need right now.

The D-men we got suck , half of them played in the AHL last season and others are just so-so .We could get Chelios he's a free agent that would be great if he became a flyer he's old as dirt but he is one of the best of all-time and can still very much play, I have a new vote for Flyers Team Captain Chris Chelios

i thought the european leagues were more competitive than the ahl?

The D-men we got suck , half of them played in the AHL last season and others are just so-so .We could get Chelios he's a free agent that would be great if he became a flyer he's old as dirt but he is one of the best of all-time and can still very much play, I have a new vote for Flyers Team Captain Chris Chelios

Chelios is an a-hole.

I would say Richards we need to give Richards the C. It may be a year earlier than expected, but I'd rather see him wear the C than Timonen. Timonen is the man, but Philly needs a captain that will fight and do whatever it takes for the Flyers.

I would say Richards we need to give Richards the C. It may be a year earlier than expected, but I'd rather see him wear the C than Timonen. Timonen is the man, but Philly needs a captain that will fight and do whatever it takes for the Flyers.

Id rather have timonen, an experienced vet whose had the c before, have captaincy over Richards for a couple seasons and not risk overwhelming Richards resulting in a poor season. Give him the alternate for a season or two more then give him the c, Richards can still fight and stand up for the team, just as an alternate captain. I just don't think risking Richards having a poor season performance wise is worth it just so he can be captain one year early...he is here for 12 years and all.

The D-men we got suck , half of them played in the AHL last season and others are just so-so .We could get Chelios he's a free agent that would be great if he became a flyer he's old as dirt but he is one of the best of all-time and can still very much play, I have a new vote for Flyers Team Captain Chris Chelios

I would say Richards we need to give Richards the C. It may be a year earlier than expected, but I'd rather see him wear the C than Timonen. Timonen is the man, but Philly needs a captain that will fight and do whatever it takes for the Flyers.