I've got one word to describe the hit by Kovalev on Gagne---COWARDLY!!!

Why didn't we make him pay for that hit?!?! Nobody did a thing!! I'm furious about this! That could have ended Gagne's career!!! This is why the instigator rule needs to go...So that Kovalev could get a taste of his own medicine.

Does anyone know if he is hurt or has suffered another concussion?!?

Next time we play them I want Kovalev to feel pain!!!

I missed the game...any video of the hit?

Well, Gagne didn't miss any shifts, so I think he's fine. I actually thought that the Plekanec hit on Ross was worse (he should be suspended), but he's not nearly as important as Gagne.

both hits were extremely dirty. it's a well-known fact that Gagne was out almost all of last year with concussion problems. Plekanec's hit was just as bad, if not worse, because Ross is such a small guy and was in a vulnerable position. he also blatantly made the attempt to drive Jared's face into the lip on the boards. i'm a bit disappointed that we didn't send Josh Gratton and Arron Asham out there against the Kovalev line and have both of them blast him and lay him out, but we won the game, so it's not a big deal.

I thought the hit on Ross was worse, too. To do that to a rookie is disgusting!

Something needs to be done about these hits and Montreal isn't in the NHL's good books at the moment with Kostopoulos getting a ban and with the possible inquiry into the All-Star ballot. I hope Campbell et al were watching!

Nothing was done for either hit because we had no one to take on Laraque which is what would of had to happen if anyone ran Kovalev or Plekanec.

On Ross's hit he did turn into the boards exposing his back and Im not sure of the correct technique but one of the commentators said players need to protect themselves as well and I thought that was a pretty valid statement. Maybe we should be learning to go into the boards side on or something like that.

Still they were both prett cheap especially Kovalev and really that hit warrants a suspension if that is applicable from a review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlGdGDVuVl8

that´s the link, sorry don´t know how it goes, to get directly in the link.


And Kovalev, such a bad masturbator - dawm !!!

That makes me angry!

i didnt think it was that bad of a hit .. the ross hit into the boards could have been worse i think ..
and as for being a bad masturbator .. how would you know that one .. is there a youtube video for it

Man I was hoping someone would start a topic on this since I'm a newb and can't start new topics yet. Kovalev is just a sneaky scumbag. It wasn't so much the hit as it was the elbow to the head. What makes it worse is that Gagne struggled with concussions all of last year. Don't think for a min Kovalev didn't know that, he was head hunting plain and simple and he knew who he was going after. It's not the first time he's done it either. He's gotten away with it before because he's a big name player but maybe this time they'll drop the hammer on him. I'm sure if the NHL doesn't there will be some payback for that shot next game! I didn't get to see the game but I presume Cote wasn't dressed or it would have been handled right then and there!

Wait...WHAT????????? So now its whoever has the biggest goon gets to play dirty
The real reason nothing was done was neither hit was that bad, neither Gagne or Ross missed a shift. They needed to win that game, so they did the smart thing and not take stupid penalties, which lead to a win.
Buy the way, I think Gratton could put in a strong showing against Laraque

Yeah maybe we should have the guys who have had concussions wear pink helmets and make it a penalty if you so much as touch them.
Seriously people, get over it, its hockey, not the icecapades.

Uhh...not from what I saw. Props to Gratton for stepping to that ogre but he got wrecked. And what gets me most about the hit on Gagne is that it was completely behind the play as well as a not so clean hit.

The hit on Gags was just late and dirty.

Now Ross, true you do have to protect yourself. I get ****** off every time we get a boarding penalty when the guy voluntarily puts himself in a vulnerable position. That being said, every time we hit a guy like that we get a 5 minute major and everyone says how dirty we are. Now when the Habs do it, and on purpose to because you can clearly see the shot to the head, all you get is a roughing minor and it's all done. Complete crap.

That's what I call being a DOG. Kovalev is a cowardly ***** that can't hack it in the defensive zone.

It wasn't that bad of a hit. What are players supposed to do? Keep in mind each players past injuries and let up? Kov is not the type of player to go out there thinking " I want to hit Gagne in the head cuz of his past concussion" We're all just sensitive cuz we love Simon.

Face it guys both the hits were dirty. The NHL won't do anything about them because they were against the flyers and as much as you don't want to admit it, the NHL hates us.

I guarantee if a flyer hit a canadian like either of those they would of got 5 and a game and a suspension

I know what you're saying but when it comes to hits, everyone is on the same level.

Wow, I thought this was in the Philadelphia Flyers forum, but I came in and found a bunch of people whining like Pittsburgh fans.

Since when did "tough" Flyers' fans start whining about every marginal hit? Kovalev's hit was clean. Gagne was skating bent over. Get over it and move on.

How can you call that hit clean. It was well away from the play and his elbow hit gags head.

The point is if we hit someone like that we get suspended.

It was by no means clean, but I don't think it was that horrible of a hit. He should have gotten a 2 minute minor for it. Nothing more...

Kovalev didn't like getting hit by Tucker, so it would suggest that he wouldn't hit a player like that. But I guess that is asking too much. He'll get his.

I'm not sure how you saw that as a clean hit when Tom Kostopolis(sp?) did something very similar, & got handed a suspension; Thomas Pock, of the Islanders, also did something fairly similar, & HE got a suspension. However, Kovalev does it, but gets no suspension (at least, that I am currently aware of, but I HIGHLY doubt he will cause he didn't even get a penalty for it.)

The Ross hit did look more dangerous, but both hits were bad; & both deserved some type of penalty with a possibility of suspension. I'm not saying that because it was Gagne & he had the concussion issues last year because regardless of who the player was Kovalev used his elbow & blantently drove it into Gagne's head. It should have been a penalty, & had the possiblity of a suspension no matter WHO the player was. It could have been Richards, Carter, Nodl, etc, & I still say it deserved at the very least a penalty, & a possible suspension at the most.

However it was against the Flyers, not "for" the Flyers, so I'm sure the NHL will over look it. As someone all ready said, we're not too liked by the NHL. Gratned right now the Canadiens aren't too liked by them either, but we are the more hated team, & haven't been in their "good graces" for quite some time now!

Anything done by the Flyers that's even near borderline gets a penalty/suspension. If it's to a Flyer, it's no harm no foul. Been that way for over 30 years. If it wasn't for the instigator rule, we wouldn't have to worry about it. I wonder how Clackson would do against Laraque?

No surprise to me, if it's a dirty hit on the Flyers it turns into passion by these NHL jerks. But if it's a Flyer player throwing a dirty hit on a player, everyone in the NHL is talking about "suspensions".

Kovalev is one of those players that I wish would get injured that ends his career.

Looked like he was trying to give him another concussion.

That entire team is full of spoiled scumbags who think since they are the Habs they should be handed the cup, mind you Kovalev is the guy still saying they outplayed the Flyers in the playoffs and that the Flyers got lucky. To target a guy like Gagne who is a standup class act guy is just despicable. But it doesn't matter since they lost. We showed them on the scoreboard not by being dirty like them.

I'm not sure if we're talking about the same hit now. In the hit I'm talking about, Gagne had just peeled off after playing the puck behind the net when he got hit near the corner. If that's the hit you're talking about, then how do you expect a player to get hit when he is skating bent over with his head at elbow level? It's not like Kovalev intentionally put his elbow out. He didn't even hit him that hard. He checked him with his side and his elbow almost against his body.


2 minutes for what? Checking? Finishing your check? Maybe they should just take checking out of the game.


The Kovalev hit was nothing like the Kostopoulos hit: Link If you can watch that and still call these hits similar, then there is no point discussing this with you.

I haven't seen the Pock hit, so I can't compare.

All the "If it was the Flyers..." "The NHL is against us..." talk is getting a little old (actually, it's way past old). Try to view the hit with some maturity and objective reason. You people are whining for a penalty/suspension here, but if it was a Flyer that did it, and got penalized/suspended, the same people would be whining how ridiculous that is. It's hockey. Awkward hits are going to happen. All this whining makes me sick.

Most intimidating fans?

Man, is your user name a misnomer!

It doesn't say MeLikeWhiners.

Seriously how is that clean?

So Downie's hit on McAmmond last year, that was clean right? Or Jesse Bouliriece cross checking Kesler up high that to? And Jaarko Ruutu hit on the Canadien this year, that was clean as well I guess. And Pock's hit, that was clean as well.

Kovalev's hit was not clean, and Ross's hit deserved more than two minutes.

If we did that, we'd be suspended

lol did semin really say that?

Oh, I get it. You guys have a running joke going and I'm just not in on it. Make ridiculous claims and "act" like you're whining about everything, but you're really just making fun of people who whine about hits.

I get it now, very funny.

That hit could have went either way, but you can't let a hit on one of your star players, clean or not go un-punnished. The hit that Gagne took from Bowmester that started the concussion problems was a clean hit, but he should have paid for it and didn't. I didn't see the full game, but did see the fight Gratton had with Laraque in the 1st period. It looked to me like Gratton got pummeled.

Absolutely. I'm a little disappointed. Someone else posted that they can dismiss not going back at them because we won anyway, but what kind of message does that send?

I can understand why no one went at Kovalev right after the hit was done. They didn't want to put the team in a bad situation penalty wise. I can understand that. They played smart. They played a great game.

My problem with the hit was that it was a bit too late for me. However, I don't know if it was completely "clean" but most good hits have a bit of dirty in 'em.

And with the Ross hit, the thing that bothered me was that Coburn did something similar but didn't extend his arms and got a major for it. So the lack of consistency in the officials bothered me. (Edit: Yes I am talking about different games, but I'm talking consistency in general)

In the end, no one got hurt so I can move on. The Habs will get theirs eventually. Players don't forget.

You're right. Kovalev is at this S*H*I*T* all the time and always gets away with it. I can't understand why he's never penalized for this stuff , let alone any suspensions.

Why would they try and retaliate when the score is 0-0? The most important thing is winning the game. They will get their revenge the next game. The players wont forget about it.

When a player takes a dirty hit like that it is usually to spark a retaliation. Forcing a team off their gameplan to your advantage.

Kovalev should be suspended for that but taking cheap runs at him would just keep us at the bottom of the NHL.

A hit is a hit. Every game theres an elbow or two. The NHL is at fault for not consitantly monitering these hits but Kovalev was just finishing his check, with what it looked like intent to injure but thats how you hit people with the intent to hurt, most players won't hit for the **** of it , they hit to hurt, and some have tendencys to hit dirty. Was the hit dirty, I really can't tell you that you would have to ask Gags for yourself.. but we should all stop worrying about suspensions and be happy the Flyers beat a good team such as the Habs

I agree with you on the Kovalev hit. It was late and kind of high. If anything it is 2 for interference or elbowing. I missed the Ross hit. I do agree that the refs need to be more consistent.

Or...

Ban the whole Canadiens team,**** cowards.Have no respect for anyone.Kovalev is a b****

well then at least we won't move down

any video of the hit on ross? and is that the hit that gratton got into the fight for?

They would. The Flyers are among the bottoms teams in the standings now but not the bottom team.

the hit on Gags was late but really wasnt that bad it just looked awkward. he was fine so no harm done(i guess)
the hit on Ross was a complete cheap shot and should have been AT LEAST a 5 minute major. he was elbowed and slammed face first into the boards.
the refs are partial to the Canadiens(ie: Kovalev goal in Game 1 last year(the one that was hit with a high stick)) and they hate the Flyers

Well said. The hit on Ross deserves a little attention though, but we don't need to start yapping about suspensions.


To get an extended elbow penalty, I think your elbow has to be extended. I could be wrong there.

Based on Gagne's numbers tonight against ATL, he looks like he had no troubles with the Kovalev hit.