Lasse Kukkonen was placed on waivers Thursday. - TSN

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Another stupid move by Holmgren IMO.

I wonder if he is making room for Shanny?

how is this stupid? does it make sense to have him sit in the press box game after game? He's done as a flyer. Really, it's not a big deal.

Hes playing center tonight and put on waivers lol.. good move here comes shanahan!!!!

Possibly, but you knew eventually he had to unload at least one dman. With Vaananen back, the time is right. Let him play somewhere at least.

Bad move. I'm not a big fan of Lasse, but until parent and Jones come back we need more depth.

I wonder if they tried to traded him first, and could'nt find any takers?

I think its stupid because I'm pretty sure someone's going to claim him. We probably could have at least got a low round draft pick for him. We should have at the very least sent him down to the Phantoms.

Hahahaha I love his interview today:

"yeeeaaah...I think I played with I was 16? Like 10 years ago...should be fun!"

If he clears waivers, then he can go play with the phantoms. IMO good move, he was horrible, and atleast he'll have a shot to play somewhere else.

They can't send him down without waiving him first. If he clears he can then be sent down.

I don't like it because he is the 7th dmen at the moment, but I could live with it if they sign Shanny.

Huh, I'm not surprised that they waived him but I am surprised it happen when he's scheduled to play tonight. I hope he clears and can go down to the Phantoms. Since Homer wasn't accompanying the team to Pittsburgh and they already said they weren't calling up any additional forwards, I wonder if this means we should be welcoming Shanahan aboard.

EDIT: From Meltzer:



I forgot he could play on waivers.

but, but...Lasse's my favorite Flyer!

Maybe teh Pens will claim him!

I'd bet you $50 he clears

Sucks, I liked Lasse but he was obviously the odd man out. Hope he clears so he can still be in the system.

Bad call. Not a big fan of Lasse, but it's not like we can go and start placing D-men on waivers at the moment.

I agree, it could be a Shanahan move.

I'm sure he tried to get something for him but found no takers.

Hopefully we still get a decent effort from Kukks tonight....I wonder if Holmgren is thinking about bringing Giroux up...or maybe holmgren isn't going to the game in Pittsburgh tonight because he wants to make Shanny a deal...

welcome to Philly Shanny

Oh man I was so disappointed, but if he clears he can go to the Phantoms! Where we can hang out and become buddies!


But yeah, I'm not happy about this move....Stevens is starting to get to me with the favorites act.

Wait, what am I missing? He's waived, but still playing tonight?

Yeah, I forgot that myself. You can still play on waivers.

I didn't think you could be waived and still play

Atleast he waived. He didn't impress me this year. No goals or nothing. Last year was his best year with us.

WE WANT WHO???...SHANNY!

Yeah, it happened with Dowd last year.

So if someone claims him tonight while he his playing would he just be yanked off the ice?

As optimistic as I'd like to be, I don't see this as a move for Shanny. Homer hasn't even offered him a contract. Ridiculous.

If anybody should be going it should be Alberts. He is terrible. But I don't think this was a move for Shanny. I think it is a move to start trimming down the cap, because Jones and Parent will be coming back in December and we need cap room. Maybe there are more moves in the future. Personally, I wish Jones would stay out, because he is not that great. I think he is not much of an upgrade to the d, and he is going to cost us one of our forwards most likely just so we can stay under the cap.

But, I think we should sign Shanny for $1.3 mil or whatever, and start looking for a place to trade Knuble. He is putting up decent numbers and has a good trade value right now especially with the expiring contract. I just feel Hartnell is a similar player to Knuble and will be just as good if not better than Knuble if given the chance.

We still don't have enough money for Shanahan but it could be a prelude to a trade which then results in signing Shanny.

Fair enough. Didn't know that

Yeah, I'd imagine that's what would happen.


Well yesterday Homer said we're 800K under the cap and Kukkonen clears another 875K. Nodl would probably be sent down in favor of Shanny so that's another 850K of savings. I think they have enough to sign him, but then they'd have to clear out more for Jones' return.

Clear out a forward or D? If anyone, I'd prefer to see Alberts waived. How would our cap look after that when Jones comes back?

I think it'd be too precarious to sign him before making another move. It's the middle of November already and Jones is due back in the beginning of December. I'd hate to see the Flyers rush just to sign him and then be forced to make a move that doesn't favor the team just to clear space.

So who is going to be the 7th d-man until Parent or Jones comes back ? Bring another Phantoms player up ? Maybe Syvret ?

I would think the deal (if there is one) only goes through after the 24 hour waiver period. There could be more than one team that wants to claim him so just because team A wants him, they still have to wait the full 24 hours to see if anyone else wants him. Then I believe it's the team with the worst record that would get him.

Syvret is certainly the most deserving but I'd hate to see him get called up to be a healthy scratch. If this team is missing grit on the back end, why not call up Guenin?

Good point on Guenin. They should definately have someone around though.

holy crap! there is a god! thank you, lord!

*happy dance*

good. kukkonen is a hack.

i said the same thing with him as i was saying all along about downie. hes been given too many chances to just take up space on our roster, when he does nothing productive.

id like to see them bring giroux up for a game or two to see how things progress with him. maybe that could boost his confidence and he would start producing even in the ahl setting. this move could allow that.

Changing his number didn't help as Kooks was a liablility on the ice. Whether good, bad or indifferent in your personal opinion of him as a Flyer, or in the decision to move him, it was a good practical move for the team.

Oh please god let some other team claim him.

Already done that and he wasn't very good to be fair Might be a tad early.

how do you know? do you work in the front office that you know homer hasn't been talking to shanny and hitting him with numbers and offers??

I can't understand putting a player on waivers & expecting an effort out of him tonite AT CENTER????...BUT if Homer is trying to shop him, why put him in an unnatural position???? How's he gonna sell that??? He might as well tried to trade him...I can't believe NOBODY would bite for an experienced NHL defenseman But I didn't think he was that bad. If Shanahan is en route, cool, but why give Lasse away for nothing?

I have no idea why they're getting rid of a d-man unless they're planning on trading for another. Kukkonen is a great shot-blocker who is valuable to the team and was never given a legit chance in my opinion. Stevens' handling of him could not have been worse and I don't understand why Homer didn't step in and apply pressure on Stevens to play Kuks more, unless there is something major they know that we do not.

uhhhh. what? he can block shots. great. what other skills does he possess? he was a liability on the blue line. good riddance.

I have to agree. All & All, looks like another bone-headed move by Homer. By the way, check out this BleacherReport article regarding WHY WE SHOULD GET SHANAHAN. Pretty accurate:

He’s Still Got It

Brendan Shanahan has scored less than 20 goals just once in his twenty-year career. That season was his 1987-1988 rookie campaign with the New Jersey Devils, where he scored seven goals.

Even at the age of 39, Shanahan finished the 2007-2008 season with the New York Rangers with 23 goals and another 23 assists.

To those who would point out that the Flyers don’t need more goals but more defense, my reply is as follows—six of Philadelphia’s nine losses were either by one goal or in overtime. Sounds like the Flyers need just a few more goals to get them over the hump.

Bang for the Buck

Shanahan is thought to be looking for a salary in excess of $1 million—which is a bargain for a player who has potted 20 or more goals in 19 consecutive seasons. The closest 20-goal scorer with salary in that neighborhood on the Flyers roster is Joffery Lupul at $2.3 million.

With the Flyers' cap room set at a little over $800,000, does anyone really think the Flyers will address their blue line without moving significant roster players? At the price, Shanahan is a steal.

Buy Low. Sell High

Alright, worst case scenario time; Shanahan’s presence on the ice does little to reverse the fortunes of the Flyers this season, and as the trade dead line approaches, Philadelphia’s playoff hopes look all but out of reach.

The Flyers would certainly have some Eastern teams banging on their door for the rental services of one Brendan Shanahan.

For an investment somewhere in the neighborhood of $1 million, the Flyers could possibly seek a high pick or prospects in return for a player who costs them nothing more than the money they paid him (which at that point would be pro-rated, as the Flyers would not be on the hook for remaining salary).


That Eighth Playoff Slot

The Flyers are in a dogfight in the Atlantic Division. Do fans really want the teams the Flyers will be fighting tooth and nail with for that eighth and final playoff slot in the East to get even better—when Shanny can be had for a song? Think about what's being left on the table in that scenario.

Shanahan is said to be giving Philadelphia serious consideration. If his salary demands are indeed reasonable, and the Flyers do not need to do anything other than open their wallets to get him, Brendan Shanahan can help this team.

Whether the Flyers make the playoffs or not.

How much of him did you see that puts you in a position to make that kind of judgment? He's never gotten a consistent chance to play. Never. I don't believe he was a liability. He's struggled, sure, but I've seen a lot more from him at times than I've seen from Jones, Stevens' heartthrob.

Kukkonen was better than Parent last year majority of the time.

Maybe they want him to play bad tonight so nobody picks him up off waivers


Parent really didn't play last year and when he did I thought he played well.