Correct me if i'm wrong

this team was absolutely LAUGHED at the year we signed Hatcher and Rathje, because of the new NHL rules. Fine, thats over and done with. It was to my understanding, this team was being built to become a quick, puck possesion "poor mans buffalo sabres" kinda team...


Now...with all of the money we have in these big league players. Here's my solution. Let's dump EVERYONE, sign nothing but slow, big, no skill, hard hitting players, and have them do EXACTLY what this team is apparently told to do...dump the puck in, no matter where you are, chase it, lose the battle, and have it back the other way. This game, though the score was close, was extremely difficult to watch.

I'm sorry......ugly...ugly..stuff.

Guys Im mad at stevens for being so calm and not acting like anything is wrong when our team is losing, but i honestly blame the players. For some reason this yr our guys cant seem to be motivated to do anything. There was no sense of urgency They acted like the already had the game won coming out of the first period. If this team doesnt learn to play with some REAL passion soon we are gonna tank

yes absolutely right, we dont play with a sense of urgency for the whole game, maybe one period or less, they dont play a complete game

Really? Jesus Christ people. We get that we are struggling. We don't need 20 topics talking about how bad we've been playing.

I agree that the players are certainly to blame as well, but at the end of the day it is Stevens' responsibility to get the most out of his players and get a consistent effort out of them. He hasn't.

Couldn't have said it better. We have a good enough squad! We have the same darn offensive team as last year besides some 4th liners, and Umberger.
Seriously this shouldn't be happening.

i agree with you on that, but to me if they wanna win they need to prove they want it. Otherwise were gonna end up in last place in the final standings.

Again with the chicken or the egg argument...

It's the coach's responsibility to get the players to buy into his system and play to their potential. He needs to hold those players accountable when they don't do the little things required to win. Stevens is not doing that--he's never done that. He never comes down hard on his golden goose players and they have no fear of him at all. Carter, Niitty, and Richards made his career with their talent on the Phantoms, and they know it. Stevens got lucky. And now, his luck seems to have run out.

He's never been able to motivate this team. I've more convinced of it now than ever. That playoff run last year was made by the veterans in the locker room and Terry Murray. Stevens just stood there with a dri-erase board and a befuddled look on his face and reaped the benefits.

maybe have a bad season this year, get Taveras and we'll be rolling.

What's your question? I don't see one.

richards is working his *** off and everyone else is watching. thats not a team.

Your mom was ugly, ugly stuff last night. OOOOOOOOOOOOH!

It's true.

OH NO YOU DIDNT!!!!11!!1!!

Your plan is genius. This means Knuble can play for Pittsburgh

you can have him.

I think we could use I big tough defenseman or two right now. We look awful easy to play against below our own goal line.

Also, I love the dump and chase. Love it.



(and no, I am not kidding)

Rob Scuderi and a 4th round pick for Mike Knuble

I can't stand the guy, but Brooks Orpik would be idea.

It's OK to be upset, however:

1.) Either you think we're good or not! Poop or get off the pot. Blame Stevens, players, etc. . . it's getting old. We've only played 14 games in the season. 68 left, with the talent we have a real fan realizes that when this whole thing shakes out we'll be where we need to be. Too many pansies on this board.

2.) There's an official rant thread. Take alot of this garbage over there. I can't stand people who's arguement is "I have a right to my opinion". No Kidding, take it to the right thread. I feel like a bartender listening to all your ******** everyday when I come on here to read these threads. Enough!

EVERYONE on here is entitled to their opinion. If you don't want to read them..DON'T !
Don't come here calling people pansies, if you don't like it go back to wherever it is that your the #1 blogger as voted by whoever.
The "official rant post" is not in this section,and is where you should have posted this fine post of yours, consider that before you go telling people where to post while your posting in the wrong place.

You can't OOOOOOH your own joke someone else has to. that being said: OOOOOOOOOOOOH

It's a message board. The team is sucking. People want to talk about it.

Start your own friggin' board if you don't like the way this one is run. You show up for a few days every three or four weeks and lecture everyone what they should and should not post and where. You lecture people if they dare to veer off topic for two or three posts. It's not your board.

HELP! I've fallen and I CAN'T GET UP!

I slipped but heed pat's advice, people. Do not feed the troll.

You cant have him, im getting ready to buy his jersey. why do you hate Rob Scuderi he is terrible.

Am really sick of watching this team who is suppose to be a Stanley Cup Contender loose. Defense? What defense? They're lazy and miss their assignments the majority of the time. What the f*** did they do in the offseason? Party I guess and nothing else. They don't show any ability to stop any oponents. They can't hit, they can't clear the puck, they are weak, they get manhandled, they barely win faceoffs, the majority of the time they are playing in their own zone,they get hit and when they have chances to hit they avoid it. Hitchock got fired for less games lost and he was a better coach than Stevens hands down, if someone don't step up the team need to shaken up and some players send to the freezing corners of hockey h***. They traded Eminger for Cable? Eminger is in better team and happy meanwhile Cable is not a happy player why? He is been sent to one of the worst team in the NHL!!!
Meanwhile we the fans are paying this idiots to loose games? One of the highest payed team in the NHL????
Snydeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrr WE WANT A WINNING TEAM, WE WANT THE STANLEY CUP IN PHILADELPHIA!!!! NOOOOOW!!!!!
Not even Shanahan by himself can help this idiots win a few games in a row, why the h*** are we still carrying Derian Hatcher???
He should have been gone long time ago, he is not going to play anymore anywhere!!!!! Give him the walking papers.

Hatcher is on LTIR. He doesn't count against the cap and isn't holding the team back.

The real problem is that the Flyers aren't playing Flyers hockey. They aren't playing physical and they aren't crashing the net. A stay at home defenseman would help but who is out there to get. Until they play Flyers hockey, they won't break out of this funk.

Sad but true. This team sucks.

Some say it´s our defence, some blame the coach, or our forwards don´t backcheck enuff. Goalie anyone????

Totally agree that they are lazy and not workin hard enuff,hittin enuff. They don´t even play like a team, and it´s painful to watch Richards in the intervju after the games. Stanley Cup contender please
Something must happen soon, huge turnaround or some big names r gonne go.
IMO im hopin Briere goes, the sooner the better. He´s leading the team in lazy , doesen´t care if he can´t score attitude and im hatin it.

Briere just came back from an inury after two weeks... Did you watch lasnt nights game?

I don't hate Scuderi, well he is a Penguin, so yeah I do But I meant I cannot stand Orpik.

While it would be nice to move him because he would give us a large amount of talent in return, he has a no movement clause and cant be moved unless he agrees to it, so he isnt going anywhere

Stop talking like you have a sock in your mouth.


Just chill out a bit.

I'll whine and complain all I want. I wish I had the mindset of some of the fans on this board. "There's still 68 games left!!!!"
Thats clearly not the point.

What do you honestly do now to shake things up? Trading Lupul or Knuble really isnt going to do anything. Do you trade a superstar like Richards? Obviously it won't happen. So until a Moderator bans me (which im sure isnt to far off) this is what the msg board is for. Everyone who is mad that i'm venting, go live off in your dream world that we'll be an elite team playing like thats.

You know what this team needs? Brendan Witt. Just a hard nosed no nonsense rock solid dman.

I want Robyn Regehr.

Me too, and I read some where that he might be on the trading block.

I don't think you'll get him. With his contract the guy is one of the best bargains in the league. He is agruably the best shutdown defenseman in the league. Holmgren will have to give up a lot.

Witt is much cheaper.


It's unlikely that rumor is true though I would like to see Regehr out of the division.

I agree Hesh... Witt would be nice to have out there.

Can we really blame them?
The league was so determined to make an example out of the Flyers last season that they have forced them into the same old stereotype...now the officials are so concerned with keeping the Flyers under close watch that anytime they touch a player the whistle blows...
They have a great PK unit that can move the puck and create shorthanded scoring chances...none of us can speak for what goes on in the locker room or at team meetings, but it just seems to me that they are afraid of taking penalties from playing the physical game...
Downie wasn't getting enough ice time in the NHL to develop because of the penalties he was called for, so they assigned him to the Phantoms and packaged him up with Eminger to bring in Carle...the Flyers are playing like they are terrified of taking stupid penalties...Prospal's goal was a perfect example of being afraid to take a too many men penalty on a line change and a great example of why it would have been better to take the penalty...

It wasn't a bad game, for the most part...lots of hustle, lots of shots on goal, but the defense fell asleep and the lightning capitalized...kukks was caught terribly out of position and it just goes to show that he needs consistent ice time...does he have a 2 way contract? he needs to play with the phantoms on a consistant basis if they are going to scratch him every couple of games...

On the subject of Lupul...he was bumped down a line, but showed some good hustle at both ends of the ice...the lines were switched when Asham was serving both of the 5 minute fighting penalties...Maybe they were rewarding ash for scoring against ottowa, but I saw him standing a few time watching richards instead of being a physical presense in front of the net...that is, when he wasn't in the box for fighting...one should have been plenty, but who knows what in the world would make the 2nd fight sound like a good idea just a few minutes out of the box from the 1st fiight...

...they hit 3 posts last night, which to me is a sign that they are trying too hard and need to get back to loving the game, having fun and playing for their teammates...

I don't think all is lost and I am keeping my never say die attitude because that is what I would expect of them...maybe it's just my background from playing sports growing up and through college, but I learned several lessons:

A team can bond through the strength of the coaching staff or in spite of the lack thereof...especially if they know there are people cheering them on...
It only takes one or two weak players to lose a game...a captain or leader can pick up the slack for them, but not 100% of the time...
It takes a team effort to hang onto the momentum - not just one player...Richards can kill himself to make a difference, but if none of his teammates on the ice help him hold onto it, then they have conceded defeat...

Sorry for rambling, but that's how I see it

Can we insert a pop-up that says "Are you aware that Daniel Briere has a No Movement Clause in his contract?"

You'll have to click "yes" before you are allowed to post in this forum.

You need to chill out a little we all have the same feeling (or most of us anyway) And Cable is how some people watch tv. CARLE is who we just picked up.



I've been hoping briere goes ever since we go him. But he can't be moved so we're stuck with him

This ^

I would also add what I've said on numerous threads, you need a defensive coach to coach your defense. Not a ex-enforcer. I like Berube and think he could be a good asst. coach, but not on defense. It's like asking a ex-goaltender to teach forwards face off skills. If he has never done it before how can he teach them?

That doesn't mean he won't ever waive it though.

You're just giving hope to the ranters!

I probably involve him in more trade proposals than everyone else on this board combined.

Exactly where I'd like Desjardins. Or we could put Hatcher to work. Or a combo of the 2.

I would like the dump and chase if there were more chasing/winning the puck going on.
I agree with this (and most of the rest of your post). The team needs to show up and play all three periods.

Who skates with a walker and cane.