According to Philadelphia sources, the Flyers are shopping forward Andreas Nodl. The Flyers have been looking for a defenseman, and there are rumors that there were scouts looking at Chicago Blackhawks defenseman Cam Barker, who is currently playing in the AHL. The Colorado Avalance and Montreal Canadiens have also sent scouts to look at Barker. Brochu's take: You have to wonder why Barker is still in the AHL. As for Nodl, he may have a better future on another team, as the Flyers are pretty full in the top 6.

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You just ruined my night.

Rumors usually never happen. I am not a fan of this personally Nodl should stay.

I saw that earlier but didn't even bother posting it. That blog has no credibility whatsoever. We are pretty full at the top 6, but he's fitting right in now. He could be up here for good.

I hope it happens. We have a lot of forwards for now and the future and are deficient in d-men.

Flyers is loaded with the good forwards.I say go ahead,Cam Barker has a great potential.And we DO need a defensemen.

I dont see why we shouldnt make that trade. I like Barker, I was hoping we'd get him in the offseason. I dont really mind losing Nodl that much, but if it doesnt happen then whatever, all i kno is we need to make a trade for a defensmen, FA wouldnt work, I dont think.

It would be a good trade for both teams. But I know a lot of people like how Nodl looks so far and don't want to give him up. But you have to give to get.

I wouldn't give up Nodl for Barker. He was a number 3 pick and should have a lot of potential but the fact that he is back in the AHL is alarming. You look at his history and he might just be another Steve Eminger.

before i got down to your post i was thinking along the lines of steve eminger as well but i was really impressed with Nodl the last couple of games and i think he is too valuable for a defenseman that is still stuck in the AHL. Although i do agree that Nodl really doesnt have a future with this team, i think he should acquire more value than JUST Barker.

I don't think this would help anything since we already have young guys like Barker. If we add a d-man I'd rather have a veteran at this point. It's not like we desperately need more inexperienced d-men right now. We already have those.

No way! I want Nodl to stay

If a trade was brewing, I would prefer to see a well established D-man come in.

At this rate, Kukkonen is going to be a first line forward on the Phantoms, since the Flyers will be left with only d-men in the system soon.

I would do this in a hearbeat... Cam Barker has some serious potential to be a Top 4... maybe top 2 Dman...what do we need right now?... Dmen... do we need more forwards?...no

Next year with Giroux, and JVR we will have forwards out of the wazoo... we need quality Dmen

If they acquire Barker, will Sbisa get sent back?

that's what I was thinking...I'm hoping that this is hearsay or speculation as to why Nodly was called up now when they had every opportunity to make moves earlier in the season...I'm not read to throw the kitchen sink at the Flyers problems yet and as long as Parent, Jones and maybe Hatcher are still coming back this season, then I can't see bringing anyone else in and the price of someone like Nodl. I relly think they would have considered all options before trading Lukacevic (who looked decent in the rookie game that I saw) for someone like Alberts...

Nodl is playing great, Especially with Carts. I don't want to see him go. The Kid has a Future

I know it's only been a couple of games, but he looks better than Giroux.

Trade Giroux IMO

Don't trade him. I don't want another Justin Williams.

I am not so sure Nodl doesn't have a future in Philadelphia. The cap may take a serious decline after this season in which case it would be a better investment to keep him and move one of the fowards with a big contract. Especially with Giroux really looking like a disaster so far.

Barker may have potential, but doesn't Nodl?

Like 018 said, we can't afford to see another 'Justin Williams' situation go past.

I wouldn't say Nodl has no future because the Flyers will need to trade one or more forwards if they want a quality defenseman. I disagree he should acquire more value than just Barker because Barker has more value in my opinion. I think the Flyers would have to give up more for Barker.



If we determined a player's future after a few games then Eminger would be an all star defenseman and Niittymaki would be the next Patrick Roy. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nodl will be a good player, but I wouldn't dump Giroux in favor of him.

I wouldn't dump either of them. Imagine those two in a couple of years?!

This could be a Coburn situation as much as it could be a Justin Williams situation. The reason why the Justin Williams trade was so bad was because he was traded for a vet that was dumped the following season. We're talking about trading a guy that could be a good 2nd line winger for a guy who could be a good top 4 dman in the league if given a chance. He was the 3rd overall pick in 2004. The trade is more than fair for the Flyers. In fact I don't think Chicago makes that deal, but that's another discussion. The only issue for the Flyers is that he is inexperienced and he is a RFA next year.

I like to keep them both, too, but they will have to deal someone we want to keep to get a defenseman in here. I imagine at least one of Carter, Lupul, Hartnell, Upshall, Giroux, JVR, Downie, Nodl, or even Briere will be gone next year. I hope it's Briere but I would'nt mind parting with Nodl for someone like Barker. I just hope they don't deal Carter, Giroux, or JVR.

It says on Wikipedia that Barker would of had a $2.8m cap hit on the 'Hawks roster had he made the cut. Is that accurate?



Out of those, I would prefer to see Downie gone, but with our cap, someone bigger is going to have to be traded. I hope it's not Upshall or Carter either.

I really hope they get rid of Briere..We need defensemen on this team,not forwards.If this team wants to go all the way to the end ,this is not the team it can be done with.I said it earlier and will keep saying until Holmgren realised it,listen up Homie!

I came in here to say this same thing. I like Nodl, but I'd trade him for a good defensmen. I just don't think we have time for more "potential."

Barker has good speed, and is a good d-man. I'd love to see him in a Flyers jersey. This doesn't mean I'd like to see Nodl go though.

Yes, that's accurate. His cap hit is high due to bonuses from being the 3rd overall pick. That's actually why he is stuck in the AHL. He was good enough to be in the Hawks' top 4, but they can't fit him under the cap. He'd be in the NHL if they were able to move Khabibulin.

I'd like to think Upshall is mostly safe since he makes so little compared to the rest.

I'd hesitate to trade Nodl at this point. He looks very confident and not at all out of place on the big club right now. I don't know if anybody's noticed this, but young players that the Flyers trade away tend to become studs. I wouldn't do it.

I like Cam Barker, he's a big physical, good puck moving defenceman. He's 6'3 215 pounds, and would be make a good partnership with Parent or Sbisa. Give it a couple more games, I would like to see Nodl stay but how about trading Upshall instead.

Between the playoffs and how he's played in the last few games, I think Upshall isn't going anywhere. I wouldn't be surprised to see Downie's name start popping up in rumors soon, though.

I hope the Flyers org has noticed this, as well

Upshall's salary is decent compared to the others on the team.I don't see him going anywhere.
And the way he has played the last 2 games there's a little chance they would trade him.We need his speed and his "will to score"in the playoffs,he pairs up great with Carter.

So we want to trade for more inexperience?

Since the consensus here doesn't like Briere, why are many so high on Giroux?

He's going to be a Briere type player.

QFT!!!

I like Giroux, but I don't have a problem with Briere. Danny's one of my favourite players personally.

This was my first thought when I read the opening post.

If what Flyersgirl says is true (BArker is in the AHL because of cap reasons) then I feel a little better, but is yet another AHL defenseman the answer? If BArker were that spectacular, he'd be in the NHL right now. YOu don't send your best guys to the AHL just because of a cap problem.

I'd say a bigger trade swapping multiple players for a big name d-man is the only option that will have a season-changing impact

i'd hate to see him ago, especially for another young guy who hasn't really proven himself yet. barker is good and we need help on d, but i'd rather see a more established player if we are trading a top young guy who is playing really well in his first stint in the league.

Or Patrick Sharpe. I say let someone else live with bringing up another d-man. We have a few in process now with Parent, Sbiza, Eminger, Syvert, and Vanaanin coming back from a year in Europe. I can't say that I am impressed with Alberts. What is wrong with having 3 lines that can score, Montreal does.

Two letters can describe this trade...

N O !!!!!

Barkers stock has fallen so much hes only worth maybe... i dunno lets see only worth.... Scott Monroe and or Boyd Kane or Teslak

this would be a ridiculously idiotic trade

Why are you so down on Giroux? This whole "what have you down lately for me" mentality is absolutely ridiculous. Nodl plays 3 games and he is suddenly untouchable while Giroux is suddenly a one dimensional player that we need to trade. Riiiiiiight. A month from now we could be talking about how much Nodl stinks while demanding them to call up Giroux. Now I am not saying Nodl stinks because I believe he will be a good player, but my point is young players are often inconsistent so we can't determine anything about them from a handful of games.

Have you ever even watched Giroux play? He is similar to Briere in terms of offense and size, but he is not the one dimensional player that Briere is. He played in every situation for his team. He is a very good two way player that played on the top PK unit. He's also not afraid of contact like Briere.



It happens. The same thing happened to Bobby Ryan in Anaheim and they were pretty desperate for offense to start the season.

the difference between briere and giiroux being that giroux actually plays a full hockey game, not just the power play.

i think you meant more briere 'size' than 'type'.

Giroux didnt show me he wanted to be on the team... he looked like he went into shock and just kept watching what players did and didnt look like he wanted the puck
And hey dont beat down on Bobby Ryan atleast he produced within his 23 games with 10 points he didnt look likehe went into shock

It's my own opinion.

I said that Nodl was untouchable? Never said that.

Again I was giving my opinion about what I think would be better to Trade at this point. Giroux would probably fetch more than Nodl.

You would trade Nodl for another inexperienced D-man? Riiiiight!

If young players are often inconsistent, and can't determine anything about them in just a handful of games. What makes you think Giroux will be as good as you think?

Giroux didn't look good, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Plenty of young players have their poor stretches of play. Mike Richards had his poor stretches during his first two seasons with us. He didn't look anything like a point per game player then. Players need time to adjust and develop.

I never said anything about Bobby Ryan. I said he is stuck in the AHL because of the salary cap just like Cam Barker is. Although the Hawks have shuffled some players and Barker is being recalled.



Your opinion isn't based in fact. If you watched him play last year you would know the Briere comparison is not accurate.

You didn't say he was untouchable, but you said you don't want to see him go.

Giroux would fetch more, but you never said that. You said Nodl looks better than Giroux and you said Giroux is the next Briere. I have no problem with trading Giroux in the right deal, think it's comical to suggest trading him over a handful of games.

Nodl is an inexperienced forward so I don't think what's so ridiculous about trading an inexperienced forward for an inexperienced dman. For all we know Nodl may not amount to much while Cam Barker could be another Coburn. Sure, we could use an experienced dman more, but we'd have to move a good experienced player off the roster to fit one under the cap. It's also unlikely that we'll be able get an experienced top 4 dman at this point in the season so trading for Cam Barker might be the best we could do. Barker is young with a lot of upside and would fit in perfectly with our core of players.

No one can say for sure how Giroux will develop, but the scouts and organization are high on him, he's had a fantastic junior career, he had a fantastic playoff last year where he set his team's record for scoring in the playoffs and led his team to the championship, he has looked good in international play, and he looked great in last year's camp. All of this means more to me than a handful of games.

Yes, he was a good two way player for his junior team, not in the pro's yet. He was a minus 7 in the first 6 games, and is getting rag dolled out on the ice right now. I hope more than anybody that he picks his game up, and I know he will, but right now, he isn't going to solve anything. Like you said, trading him would be a huge mistake; Nodl too for that matter.

I know we don't need more forwards but, showing our kind side, I think we should help Burke out in this instance. A 2nd and 3rd pick for Ryan.