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richards for captain
What do you all think?

If we do make a move, what will it be?
GoFlyers68
Player trade...Lupul, Jones, Nodl, and a first and second round picks to the flames for Dion Phaeuf. Only joking, but I would love to have him on the team, even though they would never trade him. sad.gif
richards for captain
QUOTE (GoFlyers68 @ Oct 19 2008, 02:39 AM) *
Player trade...Lupul, Jones, Nodl, and a first and second round picks to the flames for Dion Phaeuf. Only joking, but I would love to have him on the team, even though they would never trade him. sad.gif


Maybe if we offered Gags, which is a real possibility, i had this discussion in the GDT thread, if we make a move i think it will involve gags, but it all depends on how big of a move we'd be willing to make.
Gagne#12
QUOTE (richards for captain @ Oct 19 2008, 09:36 AM) *
What do you all think?

If we do make a move, what will it be?


Doubt any changes will come,it's only 5 games into season.
And besides,guys starting to find eachother on the ice..Maybe shaking the line-up,but that's it.

PS.Phaneuf would be a good addition ,defense isn't so good right now.
GoFlyers68
QUOTE (richards for captain @ Oct 19 2008, 02:41 AM) *
Maybe if we offered Gags, which is a real possibility, i had this discussion in the GDT thread, if we make a move i think it will involve gags, but it all depends on how big of a move we'd be willing to make.

Gags straight up would do it, but I really wouldn't want to get rid of him. If they were to trade him though, it would definately be for a big name defenseman such as Phaneuf.
Meccadon123
I don't think this is the answer. We have a serious "system" issue. Last year we gave up way to many shots on goal. Last night we gave up like 45+ shots to only like 15 for us. 1 D-man will not change this. Teams are walking across our blue-line like its the US-Mexico border. It is ridiculous. We need a system over-haul quick.
LVFlyersfan12
QUOTE (Meccadon123 @ Oct 19 2008, 12:00 AM) *
I don't think this is the answer. We have a serious "system" issue. Last year we gave up way to many shots on goal. Last night we gave up like 45+ shots to only like 15 for us. 1 D-man will not change this. Teams are walking across our blue-line like its the US-Mexico border. It is ridiculous. We need a system over-haul quick.


we need a coach over-haul quick.
im not a stevens hater by any means but his system is to old school flyers hockey. we arent that big bulky team anymore that needs to cycle....
i think we need a new goalie as well, think the rags would be willing to give up val?
Bernie1
i think some sort of coaching change will be made. it just seems that our system is obsolete. teams are forechecking so aggressively and we can do nothing to stop/remedy that. idk if Stevens will get fired, but we might see a bit of a shake up as far as strategy goes.
Kappy
Nothing.

Oh wait. Maybe Stevens gets another extension.
Ruffles
QUOTE (Kappy @ Oct 19 2008, 10:28 AM) *
Nothing.

Oh wait. Maybe Stevens gets another extension.


I wouldnīt be surprised... I mean, heīs young and all. Maybe in five years or so heīs developed into a good coach. wink.gif

Honestly, I donīt think Homer will do anything dramatic just yet. If this goes on, however, heīll be forced to. If that involes a coach change or a trade, I donīt know. I think this team has a capacity to play better than weīve seen so far and if Homer believes that too, he should look for a new head coach soon.
Dave
Nothing. Way too early.
40yrfan
nada
antelope
I voted that we will do nothing.

That being said, I think we need to do something. We need to try something new - a new game plan, a new cupcake mix, something.
propp16
I don't see a move happening just yet but something will happen soon.
M.Opaliski
I'm looking forward to the day when all of you folks who foster participation in this sort of nonsense get traded ...

*Whether it's dumb threads like this, the dumb Polls calling for this that or the other and/or the nonsense in the GDT threads
Flyersfan 18
QUOTE (Meccadon123 @ Oct 19 2008, 03:00 AM) *
I don't think this is the answer. We have a serious "system" issue. Last year we gave up way to many shots on goal. Last night we gave up like 45+ shots to only like 15 for us. 1 D-man will not change this. Teams are walking across our blue-line like its the US-Mexico border. It is ridiculous. We need a system over-haul quick.


I'm with this guy.

The system is at as much fault as the players are right now.
GutterTheGreat220
No need to push the panic button just yet. Most teams go into slumps during the year, we just happen to start off in one.
Illuminated Flyer
QUOTE (GutterTheGreat220 @ Oct 19 2008, 09:32 AM) *
No need to push the panic button just yet. Most teams go into slumps during the year, we just happen to start off in one.


Exactly.

We'll finish the season VERY STRONG. The Flyers NEVER disappoint*.


*Except in 2006. laugh.gif
GutterTheGreat220
QUOTE (Illuminated Flyer @ Oct 19 2008, 09:35 AM) *
Exactly.

We'll finish the season VERY STRONG. The Flyers NEVER disappoint*.


*Except in 2006. laugh.gif



Actually they made the playoffs in 2006, but exited rather quickly. 2006-2007 is the year you're thinking. No way we go thru that again. Tho these long term injuries on defense are really hurting.
mattmullen
Flyers are gonna end up getting rid of Giroux and a 2nd Rounder for a top d-man.
swflyers8
Player Trade
FlyersFan27
Nothing at all [ 15 ] ** [57.69%]
FlyersFan27
I say put Clarke behind the bench happy.gif
Dave
QUOTE (mattmullen @ Oct 19 2008, 03:12 PM) *
Flyers are gonna end up getting rid of Giroux and a 2nd Rounder for a top d-man.


I don't think that will happen!
Dave44
Too early to do anything. If we continue to allow 4+ goals a game 10 games into the season though, something's going to change. As a GM you can't sit back and watch that happen without doing anything.
swedeflyerfan
GET RID OF BRIERE angry.gif Trade him while he still have some value left.....

He is not a top flyer-man. Heīs style of playin(lazy-only cares when he has the puck) destroyes the hole team.

angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif
tina78
NHL Net anlysists think a coaching change should be made. That's what they think may happen.
ferrin
QUOTE (antelope @ Oct 19 2008, 09:12 AM) *
I voted that we will do nothing.

That being said, I think we need to do something. We need to try something new - a new game plan, a new cupcake mix, something.



hahaha laugh.gif
Ruffles
By the way, I watched the short Flyers TV post game interview with Richards. Whatīs the matter with him there, is he struggling not to cry...?
ferrin
QUOTE (Ruffles @ Oct 19 2008, 11:52 AM) *
By the way, I watched the short Flyers TV post game interview with Richards. Whatīs the matter with him there, is he struggling not to cry...?

thats what it looked like. sad.gif
kline502
QUOTE (swedeflyerfan @ Oct 19 2008, 11:45 AM) *
GET RID OF BRIERE angry.gif Trade him while he still have some value left.....

He is not a top flyer-man. Heīs style of playin(lazy-only cares when he has the puck) destroyes the hole team.

angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif

Yeah good call moron he just leads the team in points and actually has played pretty well on the back check this year. laugh.gif
Crosscheck42
QUOTE (Ruffles @ Oct 19 2008, 11:52 AM) *
By the way, I watched the short Flyers TV post game interview with Richards. Whatīs the matter with him there, is he struggling not to cry...?

This season is going to ruin him.

I hate to say it, but he has to lighten up a bit. He can only do so much. He's going to make himself sick worrying. He's like the anti-McNabb.
FlyersGirl
I don't see any move except for maybe calling someone up from the Phantoms. I really hope they don't make a trade because you're pretty much guaranteed to lose a deal when you're desperate.
flyersgirl918
QUOTE (Meccadon123 @ Oct 19 2008, 03:00 AM) *
I don't think this is the answer. We have a serious "system" issue. Last year we gave up way to many shots on goal. Last night we gave up like 45+ shots to only like 15 for us. 1 D-man will not change this. Teams are walking across our blue-line like its the US-Mexico border. It is ridiculous. We need a system over-haul quick.

laugh.gif laugh.gif

I don't think any change will be made. But if this keeps up, something will happen.
antelope
QUOTE (Meccadon123 @ Oct 19 2008, 03:00 AM) *
I don't think this is the answer. We have a serious "system" issue. Last year we gave up way to many shots on goal. Last night we gave up like 45+ shots to only like 15 for us. 1 D-man will not change this. Teams are walking across our blue-line like its the US-Mexico border. It is ridiculous. We need a system over-haul quick.

Who knew Lou Dobbs was a Flyers fan?
Flyersfan018
Poor Richie. sad.gif
Ruffles
QUOTE (Flyersfan018 @ Oct 19 2008, 06:51 PM) *
Poor Richie. sad.gif


Yeah, it doesnīt feel good to see him like that. Has he just been torn apart by Stevens or is it just a sign of huge disappointment?
flyersfan555
Doubt it
LegionOfDooM107
Changing the roster wont do anything. Maybe the coaching staff? I dunno its too early
Crosscheck42
QUOTE (antelope @ Oct 19 2008, 09:12 AM) *
I voted that we will do nothing.

That being said, I think we need to do something. We need to try something new - a new game plan, a new cupcake mix, something.

John Stevens would never bake from a mix. He's a "from scratch" kind of guy.
slapshot
No change. The Coach is staying and the players are staying. Even tho they lost last night, I saw a vast improvement from the last couple of games. I think they do need to rethink there defensive parings.
richards for captain
QUOTE (swedeflyerfan @ Oct 19 2008, 11:45 AM) *
GET RID OF BRIERE angry.gif Trade him while he still have some value left.....

He is not a top flyer-man. Heīs style of playin(lazy-only cares when he has the puck) destroyes the hole team.

angry.gif angry.gif angry.gif


I agree with you, but i don't think he will ever lose value,

don't get me wrong he is a good player, but he doesn't fit in to the flyers system
mchrissy77
^^^He has that pesky NMC too, so it's kind of a moot suggestion.
centauris
hopefully nothing.
United
Get rid of Lupul + 2nd round pick for Seabrook.
Torvold
I said they will do nothing, but the fact of the matter is we can not afford to wait for our defense to get on track.

I love Gagne, but he cost us that last goal in OT. Yes, he is off to a good offensive start, but our top scorers are not our top defenders. As far as I am concerned, everyone but Sbisa, Richards, Briere, and Gagne is trade bait.

Top people to move... if we can find a taker:

Lupul: not only is he not producing, he looks slow and out of shape, and he isnt putting out an effort.

Eminger: Just is not getting the job done. Having puck control problems, making bad decisions, and is a friggin sieve in his own zone.

Downie: Bad penalties, no offensive contribution... yes, he is checking hard, but we can not afford a defensive role player who makes bad descisions as to who and when to lay out and can not reliably clear a puck.

Biron: For obvious reasons

Metropolit: same reasons as Downie


I know some might take umbrage at my listing of Sbisa as untouchable, but the kid is 18, and yes, he has made mistakes, but he is playing hard... and the rule is in Philadelphia, 'If you are gonna screw the pooch, do it at full speed and as hard as you can." The kid is hustling, he is hitting hard, he is not taking dumb penalties, and he has an abundance of raw talent.


I know I listed them as non trade bait, but I would even consider moving Richards or Briere, most likely Briere, if we could get a true top notch defense man. One of the possible trades out there is with the Predators. They are struggling offensively and need a 1st line center. Briere would fit them perfect. Add in Eminger. In return we get Legwand and Shea Weber.
meissler
I think we'll get rid of Knuble and maybe some sort of draft pick for an alright defenseman.

And whoever said to get rid of Briere, simply no. He leads the team in points. Him and Gagne are going to destroy it this year. He wasn't playing his role last year, but now he is.
wpgflyersfan
I am hoping Richie's post game reaction will spark the team and they will get their sh*t together. Richie clearly hates to lose, and that feeling has to start running through the whole team. Richie is still the best choice for captain, I wouldn't like to see any one else in that position right now.
wpgflyersfan
I am hoping Richie's post game reaction will spark the team and they will get their sh*t together. Richie clearly hates to lose, and that feeling has to start running through the whole team. Richie is still the best choice for captain, I wouldn't like to see any one else in that position right now.
Crosscheck42
QUOTE (Torvold @ Oct 19 2008, 07:06 PM) *
I know some might take umbrage at my listing of Sbisa as untouchable, but the kid is 18, and yes, he has made mistakes, but he is playing hard... and the rule is in Philadelphia, 'If you are gonna screw the pooch, do it at full speed and as hard as you can." The kid is hustling, he is hitting hard, he is not taking dumb penalties, and he has an abundance of raw talent.

That explains Hartnell's contract.
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