I like the guy and thought that he might be available because of his injury. Would something like.......... I don't really know what I would want to give up but I'm just interested. I would probably give up a guy like dustin penner or andrew cogliano plus one prospect(maybe rob schremp I don't know Im not good at these trade ideas) and a late round pick for him. I would think it's a fair deal but you might disagree.

I would think he would love playing in canada as he has thrived in a pretty good hockey market in philly.

Obviously I'm not the gm but I'd like to see him in an oilers jersey someday and just wanna know if he is still part of the plans on this team(according to holmgren)

No offence, but I would say no to that deal in an instance.

I don't think he's available just yet. Maybe if something happens during this season, but I don't see him getting traded.

Well Simon Gagne hasn't made a full recovery yet right? Andrew cogliano is a really fast player and despite his size he isn't afraid to throw his body around. He's got gamebreaking potential and can play on the 3rd line if need be. He is a solid all around player and was one of the only pluses on a team full of minuses. As for Penner? he a skilled guy who can rack up some points. Now how would you feel if edmonton sent a guy named Jeff Petry to Philly? He's a solid D man and the oilers see him as a potential number one defenceman in the future.

Only reason I'm thinking of this trade is because I thought gagne might be on the block because of his injury. PLus Giroux is ready for a top six spot no? And I think you mean instant.

I don't see the Flyers shopping Gagne any time soon, or ever. He also has a NTC.

Oh well guess it was just wishful thinking I don't think the flyers have anyone else worth trading for anyways other than the untradeables.

I don't think he is. He's the organization's golden boy.

im pretty sure richards is the golden boy now...12 years?!?!

For the right price, anyone's available. I think that trade proposal is far from the right price, though.

How do people with under 200 posts keep starting topics?

Are you questioning the power of this great message board software?

i believe he is

My bad, he's golden boy 1a.

Yeah, I don't know why I can't let that go. I keep pointing it out every time it happens.

Gagne for Bouw? Florida would probably say yes in an instant but Gags needs the playing time first before his stock rises.

no

no they wouldnt, not coming off of concussion problems that ended his season. actually didnt boumeester originally injure him? that would be like jersey giving us stevens for lindros

I mean, technically they owe us one then, right?

I seriously doubt they would "say yes in an instant" considering his recent injury history. Not to mention, even if healthy one might be skeptical of trading a potential #1 d-man for even a really good forward. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, just that GM's are not eager to part with blue chip defensive prospects. They're that hard to find.

I know top d-men are hot commodities, but top 10 proven goal-scorers aren't really a dime a dozen. If Gagne was healthy, I think that trade would be realistic. I wouldn't want to see it happen though.

No...you didn't really just say what I think you did?

Huh? What, are 40-50 goal-scorers easy to find these days? It's pretty much the same 10 guys every year. I'm not sure what I'm missing here.

You talk as if Gagne has pulled a JLC and scored a minimum of 40 for like 6 years in a row. I'm not saying Gagne won't hit 40, but plenty of guys do it for a season or so and drop off (while still scoring a good amount but not 40-50).

Case in point Gionta and Staal both scored 40+ two years ago and haven't since.

+1

no! no no no no no no no no no!

i can see the realist's head blowing up like a great big red ballon

Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin for Simon Gagne. Any takers?

No!

I call shenanigans on you!

Gagne is a Flyer. He is here to play with Danny Briere and shall win us the Stanley Cup.
Any players who would be interesting in a trade with Simon ? I don`t think so.

I'd do it. Then, I'd turn around and trade Crosby to Vancouver for Luongo and Malkin to to Columbus for Nash and and Hejda. I'll miss Gagne but talent is talent.

No.

Gagne is one of the best two-way players in the game. I want him back healthy and leading this team on the first line, where he belongs

Peter forsberg once said that simon Gagne is the purest shooter he's ever played with. This coming from a guy who has played with the likes of Joe Sakic, Owen Nolan and Valeri Kamensky thats a pretty big compliment.

But seriously I realize since you guys watch mostly the Eastern Conference you don't really know a lot about the west other than the obvious guys. Andrew Cogliano is like a much more offensively gifted Sami Kapanen. He always makes the right decisions with the puck. Isn't afraid to throw his body around and is a great scorer and playmaker.

I think it's a quality trade. For all you know he may never be the same Simon Gagne. How long did Umberger take to regain his old for 2 seasons? Look at a guy like Tim Connolly or Jarret Stoll who took equally as long(stoll still isn't the same) Just a thought.

The guy would look great in a oilers jersey. And he's a class act too.

Wow never heard that comment from Forsberg before.

You need to realize that there's plenty of games available to watch for people who have a hockey package. There are some of us who are hockey addicts and will watch many games a night. We don't just watch Eastern Conference teams.

But I feel the bottom line here isn't that the Flyers wouldn't be willing to trade Gagne. It's that other GMs in the league wouldn't be willing to trade much at all, if anything, and take a chance on him even being able to play in the NHL again. Let alone play close to a full season. His value at this point in time is terrible in the NHL. And that's no secret. The Flyers just wouldn't get much of any value in return for him. That, and the fact that he's got a NTC I think are the prime reasons why he hasn't been shopped. I actually think the Flyers would have liked to get rid of his cap hit with the situation they were in when this off-season started. But only if it meant they were getting enough talent/prospects/draft picks in return. And that just won't happen with Gagne until he's able to prove he can stay healthy.

i thought he was already married

I don't think he would be available while his value is at his lowest.

I'd take just Malkin for gagne

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT!

i was like uh oh, is someone try to super stalk and steal simon gagne away from his wife!?

Yeah I think he will be back and have a great season. Holmgren said that if they made it to the stanley cup finals he would have came back. I think he's healthy


Wow, then you must not be a Flyers fan. Besides Malkin hates philly and no flyers fans like him.

It's a shame that the Oilers are reduced to wearing practice jerseys now.

simon would look great in anything.

but it will be orange & black foreverrrr.

I'm a Flyers fan and would love to see him in a jersey. He's intimidated. So what. I don't really care. Put him in a Flyers' jersey and the intimidation goes away. I'd trade anyone (except Richards) for him.

What? Do you know all Flyers fans? No? Then please don't speak for all of them. Thank you.

And when have you heard Malkin say he hates Philly? He said he doesn't like playing in the WAC, but that's while wearing a Pens jersey. With a Flyers sweater on, he'd love it here and love this city. And I'd be willing to bet he'd be happy to get away from Cindy.

I'd trade Gagne straight up for Malkin in a split second. Plain and simple. Sorry, but it's just no comparison. Shero would be nuts to do that deal, and it would probably get him fired eventually. And Holmgren would become a God in this city, having a solid gold statue erected in his honor. I think you get my point.

Oh god, Malkin for Gagne? No question about it. I don't hate Malkin, I hate the Pens. I only actually HATE Crosby and Gil

I think this thread has become the punchline of a "You know it's the NHL off-season when..." joke.

I don't know I like the All black jerseys they look really cool. Reminds me a bit of those Baltimore ravens jerseys. But I agree that the white versions are crap.

I'm not a Flyers fan because I want arguably the most talented player in the NHL... gee I must not be...

Read this earlier today on delawareonline...Sounds like some good news on Simon..


The News Journal FlyersThursday, July 31, 2008Prolotherapy helps Flyers' Gagne recover
Injections alleviate concussion symptoms
By CHUCK GORMLEY • Special to The News Journal • July 31, 2008

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Simon Gagne has a few words of encouragement for Flyers fans who have seen R.J. Umberger, Jason Smith and Sami Kapanen leave Philadelphia.


"The way I look at it, I might be the free agent the Flyers signed this year," Gagne said. "I wasn't a big part of the team last year and I want to be a big part this season."

Gagne said the concussion symptoms that kept him out of all but 25 games last season are completely gone, thanks to a therapy called prolotherapy.

Gagne heard about the procedure while watching a health segment on WPVI's "Action News." He contacted Dr. Scott Greenberg, who specializes in prolotherapy at Magaziner Center For Wellness and Anti-Aging in Cherry Hill, N.J.

"When I first saw Simon back in April, he had neck pain, dizziness and real bad headaches," Greenberg said. "But he also had a tilt to his pelvis and some back pain. His symptoms were very similar to whiplash."

Gagne underwent a series of anesthetic injections in his neck, head, shoulders, pelvis and back. Greenberg said the injections are made up of two anesthetics and an inflammatory agent.

According to Greenberg, the inflammatory agent tells the body there is an area that needs repair. The body then sends white blood cells to help remove debris from the area and repair damaged tissue, tendons and ligaments. Gagne underwent weekly treatments throughout the spring.

"He's completely pain-free," Greenberg said. "He can now track the puck with no problems and his balance is perfect."

great news but well see what happens after he starts to get hit